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User_Name: Augustmoon1788
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 11:04 PM

Messages

Ha Chris. Your tweg has a hair appointment with a wabbit and hope she can make it after she has missed her last one and hope she has over bug fear and dark place's where they hide. We reamber what the two of you said the last time about are son. Sweet dreams and don't let the bed bug's bit!.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 09:26 PM

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Daddy in Wa; Alice may be hanging out in the Ape Cave with the rabbit. ........ Glad you made it home safely, hope you are able to get some quality foraging in and take a few morels back to Italy. I called his cell on Sunday and the # was still the same, they were to be in Yakima yesterday but I have no clue as to where they have been foraging. Message me on FB if you do not have the # with you. I wish I was up there to possibly forage for morels but the way things are going I am still in the hot desert, cooler today but still more than 100 degrees. Washington state is most likely the best possible area for fire morels being as it is so dry in other areas. Good luck to you and hope the services are not too hard on the girls, may God bless you all.


User_Name: Daddy now in Wa
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 08:50 PM

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Hey Alice, Daddy now here and looking for the rabbit hole. Been up for 26 hours now, quite a haul from never never land. Not sure I have your recent contact but will try in the morrow.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 08:31 PM

Messages

Miss Underestimated; I'll be there soon with my crew. We'll there not really "my" crew, just a few like minded friends that are available and just mercenary enough that they fit well into my kind of picking. Dont worry, we'll leave you all some mushrooms! HA! And maybe we can have some beers (or a fatty) and make friends?


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 08:24 PM

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I wonder how many people are lurking right now at this site, trying to scrounge up any info they can. Some people don't seem to know how much information is available right here or readily available publicly. I mean like the weather and the USFS web sites? Duh! PS - Dont be "that guy". Don't be a dummy. Don't ever give up your secret patches.


User_Name: one more thang…
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 07:04 PM

Messages

Augustmoon1788, don’t ya knows thet pie-R-round, not square; and yes the hot canyon winds in the burg, they do dry things out quickly. Lets all join hands and do the rainy day dance as love fills the air.


User_Name: Slim Pickins
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 06:53 PM

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Oh oh oh, a whole gaggle of hotness and beauties in the august moon phase all brought to you on the moral dating site, lol. Stay tuned for where the fire crop is mushrooming. As soon as I find more than 100 pounds per day I shall spread the word.


User_Name: Miss Underestimated
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 06:34 PM

Messages

Dan - Yes and yes. At least I think I'm hot! lol.. Maybe we'll run into each other up at the wa burns soon. I'll be with a small group of friends.


User_Name: mtn morels
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 06:28 PM

Messages

There are still secrets even in the age of the internetz. Secrets stay secrets the old fashioned way, missy. DONT TELL ANYBODY. DUMMY. BTW there are many ways into the complex. And thats not a secret! Full bucketz


User_Name: Augustmoon1788
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 03:55 PM

Messages

Ha 95 lb if wet. You forgot one thing you are playing your foray game's in my back yard and those that live in the northwest know you can't alway's go by what the weather man reports and the weather that come's in from the pacific is hard to prodic this time of year. If it dose warm up it could become to hot and turn very dry. Now for catch 22 here is what the big dogs know and you and chris don't. Wind his never been a friend to a morel it is a killer and if you heat with wind=?. All who know Ellensburh know what pie r sq =!


User_Name: one more thang…
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 02:25 PM

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Dan Doofus I kinda thunk that was Chris Matherly's play mate out trolling for patches an trying to dampen down any paranoia that might prevent them gainin acces to new patches. But then wouldnt weuns all like a sweet tent mate whild out lookin fur muchie mushies.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 01:36 PM

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Miss Underestimated; Are you a real girl? Are you hot? I kinda have a thing for Hipster/indie type chicks and if you are into mushrooms too that would be so cool! . BTW I agree with Miles Standish in that we need steady normal rain real bad in all of the northwest. Oregon is particularly dry and I have already given up on any spring season there.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 12:55 PM

Messages

AMEN


User_Name: Miss Underestimated
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 12:26 PM

Messages

Paranoia...the...destroya. The kinks. Don't kid yourselves the professionals and buyers already know what they need to know. Thanks to the internet nothing about anything is an inside secret anymore. Except maybe where your best patches are and that's only if you don't tell anybody.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 12:14 PM

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Augustmoon1788; good to see ya my friend. I hope some of the new posters on here realize fairly soon that mushroom companies watch these type of discussion boards to get areas where they can find quantity of product. Anytime someone posts on any board about finding mushrooms the companies most likely will send out professional mushroom scouts and crews, sadly the area someone might brag about will no longer have morels for their own home use. ........ Then there are people of whom we are familiar with who hope to get some sucker to lead a mushroom foray into their area. Yepper-Skipper the person who hired you to show them your area might not even pay for services and for years to come they are leading commercial venture forays into your area with other suckers who pay for the privilege of picking mushrooms that you might have been able to eat yourself.


User_Name: Miss Underestimated
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 12:06 PM

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Hey dummy, You can tell me about the weather OR I can go look it up myself on the same computer I'm posting this message with right now. Oh, I already did and it's going to be in the 80's with lows in the high 40's next week.


User_Name: Augustmoon1788
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 11:10 AM

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Had ice and some snow left over from lastnight and temp's were in the low 20's and well only makeit to uper 50's this week. So miss under the blaket and just won't to start h an d go and suck a egg


User_Name: Miles Standish
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 10:34 AM

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I don't know what yall been smoking but if we don't get some normal rain soon the the nw there aint gonna be no mushrooms this spring


User_Name: term100
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 09:25 AM

Messages

Looking for a mushroom and wild product supplier.. Fmt953@gmail.com


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 07:07 AM

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North~Idaho; I was raised in Idaho and have done many years of morel research in our state so I may be able to help you in your foraging endeavors. I am getting older and have been down here in the SW for the colder months but hope to get up there for at least a short foray this summer when I do my assessment. It will be hotter than 105° today down here. Thank you for the Email offer, I look forward to hearing from you today; ….. moreldoctor at yahoo dot com.


User_Name: North~Idaho
Date: Tuesday April 30, 2013
Time: 06:40 AM

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Lobo, I believe they are grey's, Blacks. If you have email I could email ya some pictures. Also they are naturals. I was suprised they have started coming up here. Im headed back out this morning so I will keep ya posted. Good Luck to all...


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 09:40 PM

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North~Idaho, just curious as to what variety of morel. Were they natural blacks or blonds or verpas or growing in a burned area from last year???


User_Name: Miss Underestimated
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 08:56 PM

Messages

Hey thanks north Idaho! We will be right there once we get done cleaning out those big burns in Washington. Pirates rules: Take all you can get. Leave nothing for no one!


User_Name: North~Idaho
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 08:41 PM

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Hello to all. Went for my first pick today, and I was amazed to find quite a few Morels here in North Idaho. Did so well thought I would finally post on here after following you all for 2 years.....shy


User_Name: itsalongshot
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 08:06 PM

Messages

itsalongshot is gonna bee thar with bells on, lottsa luck gettn ma left overs.


User_Name: Miss Underestimated
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 05:29 PM

Messages

We're going to Yakima next week to clean out all the low elevation naturals we can find. After that we're going to clean out all the nearby burns. If anybody else wants any morels around there they better hop to it!


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 05:03 PM

Messages

I was bound to happen sooner-or-later, my mind has gone morel hunting without me.


User_Name: Augustmoon1788
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 04:03 PM

Messages

Old man lobo this is your pc talking to you just wont you to know you told me too.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 01:14 PM

Messages

w0w, now how in the heck did my 10:21 get posted when I never hit the submit comments button. What I did was copy and cut it from this box and moved it to 'word' because some friends came over to get some conk from me. Then when I finally finished it and posted at 1:01 it was all together, kind of interesting, eh.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 01:01 PM

Messages

Thank you Daddy; The man I told you about who had informed me while he & his family were visiting in Idaho, sure seemed to know what he was talking about. However having done many years of research since then I find that often people who seem to know everything really don't know squat next to someone who actually does. This phenomenon seems to be a reoccurring feature of human behavior. I know of one instance of someone who still postulates facts of which he has not provided any supporting evidence yet still puts down my photographic proof to the contrary and continues to publish the blindness. This same pattern occurs in all aspects of life where we humans think we know and thus will not even look at greater truth. …….. …….. August; so very true in marketing morels. Also the longer I hold morels the less selling weight available for better prices. Often our Western morels have a shorter stem than ones from other areas, then often harvesters bruise that long stem by pinching or twisting and the consumer has bad parts they paid for but might need to cut off. …….. …….. Dan Doofus; I must be similar for I read it the way you meant it at first and went back to look after your clarifying post.


User_Name: Augustmoon1788
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 12:43 PM

Messages

Most people whom have morel's for sale well try and sale you two day old with long stem morels that are too old to call fresh market. One could sale there's and get a better price if the buyer pay's the shipping.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 11:39 AM

Messages

Woops, sorry I meant the opposite of what I said. I don't read too good or listen well. Plus, my brain has trouble processing what I have read into usable information.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 11:34 AM

Messages

Oh and there's tons of ads all over down that way too, offering to buy mushrooms. That's always a sign of a good harvest happening when there's lots of ads posted wanting to buy mushrooms.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 11:31 AM

Messages

Hey 'mradventure" You can sell your morels on craigslist too. But, there is so much volume coming out of norcal and southern Or right now that creegslist down there is just loaded up with morels for sale!


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 10:21 AM

Messages

Thank you Daddy; The man I told you about who had informed me while he & his family were visiting in Idaho, sure seemed to know what he was talking about. However having done many years of research since then I find that often people who seem to know everything really don't know squat next to someone who actually does. This phenomenon seems to be a reoccurring feature of human behavior. I know of one instance of someone who still postulates facts of which he has not provided any supporting evidence yet still puts down my photographic proof to the contrary and continues to publish the blindness. This same pattern occurs in all aspects of life where we humans think we know and thus will not even look at greater truth.


User_Name: Mad morel
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 07:27 AM

Messages

Verpa is in the same family of morel's but should never be sold as a morel.


User_Name: Daddy in Italy
Date: Monday April 29, 2013
Time: 02:13 AM

Messages

Golden Lobo, Yes I had check that area. In my 4 years of living in Whatcom county all the reports of morels I found turned out to be Verpa's. Had quite a heated conversation with a gentleman over the validity of calling Verpa's Spring Morels, which is what he was calling them on craigslist as he was selling. It is my humble opinion that it is actually verpa's in this area, as it is a well known fact amongst the locals that this is a great area for them.


User_Name: Mradventure
Date: Sunday April 28, 2013
Time: 03:02 PM

Messages

OK spotted the buyer lists


User_Name: Mradventure
Date: Sunday April 28, 2013
Time: 02:50 PM

Messages

MrAdventure here I live in Northern Ca looking for a local Morel buyer.


User_Name: Augustmoon1788
Date: Sunday April 28, 2013
Time: 02:12 PM

Messages

Warn but winded morel frezz has been posted for most of easten washington


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Sunday April 28, 2013
Time: 08:23 AM

Messages

Daddy in Italy & WA; hope your trip is a good and safe one, wish I could be up there to forage for morels with you. I have seen the reports on the Midwestern brag boards about morels being found up in WA but from reading postings here I am not so sure. Did you ever try that airport area I told you of years ago for naturals? I won't mention it here but it is the earliest patch that I know of for early April in WA and this year it just may be flushing when you get to the area. If only you and the girls are coming I might suspect a death in your family but pray that all works out for the best for you. .......... Today & tomorrow it is predicted to be more than 105° down here but the way things are transpiring I may never get up that way to do any research or foraging this year. Even my 'golding' has been seriously cut back the past couple of years. I did get a few naturals last spring while in Idaho but family challenges have curtailed much of that. I am going to try pulling an offensive tooth when my pain pills kick in, it is the last molar on the left side that connects with a bottom molar but hurts tremendously when I chew with the last molar that connects with a grinding base on the right side. .......... 0h well so much for my aging challenges, I can always eat baby food...lol.


User_Name: Daddy in Wa
Date: Sunday April 28, 2013
Time: 12:30 AM

Messages

Hi Golden Lobo, I'm actually coming back with the kids for a week on Tuesday. There are family matters that need to be settled, I could fill you in off this forum. I'm hoping to get out with Bill in Blaine to hunt, but it sure looks like it may just be too early. A shame as I am completely out and I don't know if I can make it another year without 'em. Nope, still no mushrooms up in the hills here. But....we did run into three cinghale(wild boars) which was pretty cool. We just had a hugely solid day of rain, maybe when I get back I'll hit it one more time.


User_Name: karlitos74
Date: Saturday April 27, 2013
Time: 10:45 PM

Messages

Hi I would like to know if there's someone in Vancouver bc who would like to go cruising around tomorrow .Saturday I got the ride. Hoping to get buckets full .I have spots to check. Reply here or txt me 778 316-6556 And good luck to all.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Saturday April 27, 2013
Time: 08:34 PM

Messages

And no it isn't me who posted the ad and really I have no idea who it is. (So you kooks and conspiracy freaks who are prone to letting your imagination run wild fuggetaboutit.)


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Saturday April 27, 2013
Time: 08:25 PM

Messages

Someone on ptld cregslist is trying to recruit people to join up with them for some kind of morel picking crew situation. They claim to want long term relationships. The ad says they will pay more than buying station prices. I just wonder if the bad last couple seasons (low prices/poor growing conditions) have caused people who formerly worked as crews to abandon/turn away from mushroom picking as a part time occupation? Maybe the ongoing deportations of illegals or fear of getting deported is causing some of them to avoid mushroom picking, creating a demand for legal pickers? Some people who have been out of mushrooms for a while (me + friends for example) are getting back in, and I've seen quite a few young people showing interest, they are now replacing the old folks who are getting their rocking chair money and/or cant pick anymore or have passed away. Is someone now turning to creegslist just to try to get some of the expected/hoped for mushrooms coming their way? Is it just ordinary business competition? And who are these people? The ad wants you to supply them with your information, but they don't say who they are. Thoughts anyone?


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Saturday April 27, 2013
Time: 05:53 PM

Messages

Went out today along the Columbia and found nothing not even an old Verpa? Everything seemed pretty dry and judging by the nettle height and growth of other plants they should be there? I'll look in the area for about two more weeks then moving on.


User_Name: itsalongshot
Date: Saturday April 27, 2013
Time: 04:59 PM

Messages

Dan Doofus, so sorry your trip was not so eventful. I would tell you where the morel volume poundage is coming from in nortern cali and southern oregon but then i would have to kill myself an i am not ready for that yet.


User_Name: morelluvinteddybear
Date: Saturday April 27, 2013
Time: 02:33 PM

Messages

…currently 109° in the sunshine & 96° in the shade, whewwwww


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 08:42 PM

Messages

Steve from Oregon; I used it initially to knock back the pneumonia but then took the VA doctors advice and did not use it while taking the medications. However I lost my voice and could not get much done each day by following her counsel so I began again on the tea and had a wonderfully productive day today and have my voice back again. I look forward to an even better day tomorrow. I brew the tea overnight in an old coffee pot purchased at a thrift shop. I place a couple tablespoons of shredded conk into a round tea-caddy and drop it into about 1 &1/2 liters of distilled or Reverse Osmosis water. You can also cut an edge off and place it between lower lip & gum, a little bitter but effective. From what I have heard via the ancient Chinese is that the mushroom must be completely dry prior to usage.


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 08:02 PM

Messages

Hello, Lobo got your email it's been 6 or more years since I seen you under that name:) As far as the conks you suggested I'm familiar with them but have not used them for what you suggested. As always thanks for your advise and wisdom.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 07:40 PM

Messages

• Thanks for the information Dan; My Idaho lower elevation patches usually come on in another couple weeks and conica at higher areas about one more month. However it has been so dry that the season may be a bust in areas I am most familiar with. Montana conica often come on about now ... depending. There was a report a few days ago on this board of finding two conica in NorCal at the Chips burn if I recall correctly, was that from your group? I still am not ready to head north but may stop on my way and pick a few cactus morels where they have been flushing if there are still any left. It has been extra dry down here, 90° in the shade today and is predicted to be hotter tomorrow.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 06:26 PM

Messages

BTW - My report is geared towards the commercial harvesters. Since it costs gas and time to go - profitability matters. If your looking to just wander around in the forest somewhere or maybe at the right elevations in certain locaations you could probably find a handful or two depending. But your gonna work for 'em.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 06:15 PM

Messages

Sorry touched the wrong button again. Anyhow, Elsewhere Oregon little to nothing happening there either since we've just barely started to warm up this week. Much of the traditional morel area in southern Or is dry as a cracker and probably wont produce much, if anything this spring. Anything further north Wa etc, just aint happening yet. Nobody from my crew went to Idaho or MT as there's no reason - it's still way to early there. This is first hand info and includes personal on location asessment, field buyer survey (only two could be located) and Forest Service provided info from the Shasta Trinity to the Mt Baker National forests. Ya, me and my crew get around. So unless you just wanna hike for nothing, save your gas money. If your wondering about the weather situation go check it out for yourself at the Western Regional Climate Center website. I think you'll find the weather isn't at all favorable in many areas that usually produce Naturals. Some of the bigger known burns are yet to be determined but ENTIRELY dependent on the weather in the next several weeks. We shall see.......


User_Name: easternWA
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 06:00 PM

Messages

Lobo - Thanks.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 05:54 PM

Messages

Back from the 3 day road/field trip and here's what I got. - NorCal and southern Oregon is just starting. Very spotty and very low volume. Elsewhere


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 04:35 PM

Messages

I understood from your post that you are in Ontario; Randy lives in Ontario and is the best morel person that I know of, he might help you if you ask him nicely. Did you even look at his page that I gave the link to? Click on the part that shows his huge fire morel operation in the Canadian bush..... Morel Mushrooms (view more)


User_Name: mountianman2013
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 02:42 PM

Messages

i aint going to be picking in ontario im going to nova scotia.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 12:29 PM

Messages

mountianman2013; I will do what I can to help, moreldoctor dot com the same name at yahoo. ............ King Morel lives in Ontario I believe and is perhaps the best fire morel forager north or south, http://www.myspace.com/kingmorel


User_Name: karlitos74
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 12:25 PM

Messages

Hi I would like to know if there's someone in Vancouver bc who would like to go cruising around tomorrow .Saturday I got the ride. Hoping to get buckets full .I have spots to check. Reply here or txt me 778 316-6556 And good luck to all.


User_Name: mountianman2013
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 10:04 AM

Messages

i just found out theres 31 edible mushrooms in nova scotia. crazyness. but im heading to nova scotia this week coming gonna camp an wonder the bush. tryin to learn from start to finsih the cycle of these morels. 1 question. in a forest fire area. if an morels do grow there how many yrs do they groww in a forset fire area? if anyone is in ontario an we can chat via email or what ever let me know. i have a few questions.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 09:42 AM

Messages

Good Luck mountianman2013, morels are reportedly the most popular gourmet mushroom all around this earth. I wonder if they are just as sought after on other worlds?


User_Name: mountianman2013
Date: Friday April 26, 2013
Time: 08:24 AM

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thank you guys. im traveling all of nova scotia lookin for morels. never pickedem but ive been researchin for months on this. i picked many other kinds but these i need to eat lol callin my name.


User_Name: shroomgirl
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 11:43 PM

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hey mountainman2013 My hubby is from Nova Scotia. He says yes! But don't ask where, because he only started the 'shrooming when he met me and moved to Wa. state. There is a chart that shows when they show up in different areas here in the states, I'd imagine there is one for Canada also? Good luck! And full buckets to ya'll!


User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 10:39 PM

Messages

Yes.....But are there mountains??


User_Name: ITK
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 09:16 PM

Messages

I would wager my last dollar that there are morels in Nova Scotia.


User_Name: mountianman2013
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 06:15 PM

Messages

hi there im not looking for any specific location for mushrooms. im just curious as to if theres morels in nova scotia? if someone can answer that plz id greatly appreciate it


User_Name: morelluvinteddybear
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 01:52 PM

Messages

Steve I finally found you in another Email account and have sent a missive.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 01:12 PM

Messages

Steve from Oregon; I cannot find your Email to send particulars on the tea. You most likely have the correct mushroom on hand but they are getting harder & harder to find so I shall not post it.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 11:50 AM

Messages

easternWA; this has been a weird year and I expect that some areas south of you will dry out quickly, however areas where the rain pattern might continue this summer there ought to be a fine fire morel crop.


User_Name: Lone Lobo
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 11:45 AM

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0h my, I forgot about the burn along I-90, that one ought to also have conica by now or soon with the projected coming warm-up. Lots of private property in that one {it wouldn't hurt to ask permission} otherwise some good areas outside of that.


User_Name: easternWA
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 11:41 AM

Messages

Lobo - I found a handful of blacks in Spokane yesterday, which surprised me a little.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 11:36 AM

Messages

easternWA; from what I have read there is a bit of conica coming on in NorCal and possibly in south Oregon but I have not heard of any fire morels in WA yet, just a few valley morels on the pacific side. Even August is still working the WA river valleys and if there were fire morels then that is where he most likely would be. It is possible though that the sunny aspect of Adams or same in the Wenatchee River basin burnsites have conica that those who are finding are not divulging.


User_Name: easternWA
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 11:27 AM

Messages

I'm going to be heading from Spokane to Seattle and back this weekend and was thinking about checking out the fires North of I-90 on my way home. I'm not a commercial picker, so I'll check areas that are closed to commercial picking (maps are available at the forest service web site - they also show fire perimeters). Is it too soon or do you think it's worth a shot?


User_Name: Grinder101
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 11:12 AM

Messages

Hi I was wondering where and when morel buyers will be moving to fires in BC? I am also wondering what fires might be worth looking at? Any information would be appreciated. My email is moregunsthanroses2@hotmail.com or you can txt me at 780 897 8855.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 10:55 AM

Messages

Steve; As soon as I was diagnosed as having pneumonia I brewed a pot of Tiaga Tea and drank the whole batch in a 24 hour period then went to the VA doctor and my lungs X-ray showed no pneumonia. Next I let the doctor talk me out of taking the tea while on her antibiotics for a week. I then lost my voice and energy but still neglected brewing any more tea. Finally yesterday I brewed another pot of tea and my voice has cleared up over-night and energy level is back for the most part. Go Figure....


User_Name: Morel Farmer
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 07:33 AM

Messages

YJ; Without knowing where you are or if you desire naturals or fire morels or where you plan to pick there is not much anyone who does pick morels can do for you. Currently morels are flushing from Georgia up to the Great Lakes in Midwestern USA. On the west coast morels are flushing in lower elevation inland valleys from California up into British Columbia.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 06:05 AM

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YJ, I din't pick morels. Read the board for your answer.


User_Name: Y.J.
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 12:12 AM

Messages

Greetings Matsiman Just a question.. Any morels out? Some say to early too late. What do you think? Thank You Y.J.


User_Name: Madmorel
Date: Thursday April 25, 2013
Time: 12:10 AM

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Time for a landding and back to earth. We been camping here the last four day's and no muchroors to talk about are even invite over to eat. The nights have been cold calling for morel freezzze warnings and are ask to cover them up with a mushroom warming blacket. Weather calls for the next 25 days uper 70s with low 40s and morel pools well be opening soon near you. Thats your washington mad morel report.


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Wednesday April 24, 2013
Time: 11:18 PM

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Hello, On the subject of pneumonia I got something real nasty starting very late last year. I'm a bit stubborn so I did not go to the doctors. What ever this is it's come back a few times and I have lost my voice at least 3 times? I'm feeling pretty well know but my voice does still sometimes go in and out. Hope you guys beat this or that thing. Steve


User_Name: Mad morel
Date: Wednesday April 24, 2013
Time: 11:02 PM

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I rember day's that nothing would keep me from grabing my packboard~bucket's and gas up and off i go. O"ya I foregot why I was suck something about?. And to this day i set watching them grow before myvery eye"s and we have not seen a preson in day's and that was are last fill up.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Wednesday April 24, 2013
Time: 09:40 PM

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I feel that I am getting a bit better day by day but this illness has put me behind in my preparations for summer foraging and if it does not go away then I might not get to the morel or golden sites this summer at all.


User_Name: Madmorel
Date: Wednesday April 24, 2013
Time: 04:24 PM

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Sorry about your round with pneumonia and hope you are on your way to a full recovery and happy b-day. Looking to find you larking around in the au fields looking for that golden morel. The weather is on it's way for better days ahead with 70's to 80's.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Wednesday April 24, 2013
Time: 07:33 AM

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Good Morning all. Mad Morel; I am one more year older today but not necessarily wiser. I am still recovering from the pneumonia residual cough but hope to be out foraging for AU & new morel photograph adventures soon.


User_Name: Madmorel
Date: Tuesday April 23, 2013
Time: 10:14 PM

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I just like to say dan doofer it would be for the best of all as will as for you to not alow a 90 lb if wet playbunnie and chris know any of your place's to hunt for he dose use his gps to mark your patchs and return to us them when all gose sour between you two. I know i found out the hard way. madmorel by the way i am on the road picking along the rivers and not much poping at this time been cold here in washington state lobo lobo what are we going to if they don't pop i have gold pans in hand for a back up!!


User_Name: Eibs
Date: Tuesday April 23, 2013
Time: 09:08 PM

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Lobo and Steve, thanks for the advice on the western wa morel scene. By drawing on some previous knowledge, I think I've got it dialed in now. Much appreciated.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 23, 2013
Time: 01:17 PM

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Conicalifornia; thank you very much for drawing my attention to a burnsite that had somehow slipped through the cracks when I was documenting research on that area, much better site for fire morels than the other two.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 23, 2013
Time: 11:09 AM

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Oy my gawd, the morality police are trolling. The religious crackpots cant be far behind. I'm outa here for a field trip.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 23, 2013
Time: 08:47 AM

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California; from what I have see of the habitat and weather pattern I would venture that you are a very good forager to have found any conica at all if you were in the Peak or Eureaka fire areas. Best of luck to you and thank you for the conica report.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 23, 2013
Time: 08:35 AM

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Congratulations on the 5 morels Steve. I have never seen the videos and have never been interested in listening to individuals with potty mouths or those who speak with a forked tongue, therefore it is very unlikely that I will view. ......... On a lighter note; while serving with the US Air Force I dated a Playboy Bunny in California back in about 1972. No tats, no parseltongue and a delightfully clean mouth.


User_Name: Conicalifornia
Date: Tuesday April 23, 2013
Time: 08:27 AM

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Dan asked about Nor Cal Burns...Just scouted most of Chips fire in Plumas and nothing! Temps and moisture appeared perfect but not much cedar or old growth and was surprised to only see a couple conica and ironically it was the first road i checked...usually morels tend to not show them selfs till the end of the hunt...this time they were definately teasing us!! Thinking this burn might do something next year with the limited amount of new vegetation in forest?? I may have been bit early for northwest slopes warming up also??...However Rattlesnakes already out!! Cheers, Conicalifornia


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 10:20 PM

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Hello, Have you seen any of Chris's youtube videos. His playboy playmate is in her late 40's and has a very foul mouth. Not to say anything bad about getting older but some act like she's in her prime not the case. She would be more attractive if she control the filth that comes out of her mouth. On another note a friend found 5 Morels along the lower Columbia yesterday as for me still no luck except for those verpa's.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 05:31 PM

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The olden days of higher prices are gone now for sure but they were fun times for me. I sold my first fire morels to Bud Evans, he had set up his buying refer trailer near the trailhead where I was coming out from a hike in to some Idaho alpine lakes. It was late in the season but Bud was still buying even though pickers were filtering off to go pick pines at Crescent. Bud is my all time favorite buyer and not just because he was my first official buying contact. I was a sad day when his allergies to mushrooms overcame his abilities to do that which he liked. I have been to their current abode where he has a nice rock shop set up and processes gem stones into artistic creations.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 04:26 PM

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Woops, touched the wrong button again....anyhow, I haven't hunted animals for many years now but I don't particularly care if others do. Anyways I stopped at the buying station when I saw all these people lined up in the middle of nowhere in a parking lot with lights set up and cars parked everywhere just to see what was up. When I got out and walked up to actually see what was going on I got there just in time to watch floyd speed grading a batch of pines then paying an Asian guy over a thousand bucks for a few buckets of mushrooms. My eyes just about popped out of my head as you might imagine. I went home and put away my guns and gathered up some gear and headed back to the woods the same nite. I knew those woods well having hunted there all my life but never paid any attention to mushrooms aside from kicking them as I walked along. Anyways fun times when there was big bucks in it. It's still fun really, just way less money.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 04:16 PM

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Thanks Lobo. Floys was in interesting guy. Former log truck driver turned picker then buyer. The first time I met him was during a matsi season. I had just come down, emptyhanded, from deer hunting one of my secret spots. I shot (and ate) all kinds of critters until one day I decided it wasn't cool anymore. Just my thing, I


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 03:51 PM

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Dan Doofus; After Floyd lost his lease on the building he was in he purchased mushrooms at the storage units between there and Safeway. Al Rankin took over at the place Floyd had been using and since that building was torn down a couple years or so back he has been using the storage units where Floyd had moved his buy station to. Floyd currently lives in Florida last I heard.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 01:27 PM

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Does anyone remember Floyd Reese who ran Northwest Mushroom Co in La Grande? I sold my mushrooms to him at various times in various places in the late 80's - into the 90's including morels when I picked near La Grande. He bought everything and paid right for them. I asked some buyers in Chemult last fall about him but they didn't know. He was in his late 50's? maybe in the early 90's so he might not be around anymore but his daughter and son in law might still be involved in the business? Anyhow he was a good dude and a great source of information and help to my early learnin's back then. Itsalongshot: Uh I see there's a lot to unpack there and I don't really have time for reading all of it, besides it looks like way to much drama - he says this...he says that....I don't know any of these people or care frankly, besides I don't get involved in other peoples personal affairs. It's none of my business you see.... , It kinda looks like a verbal "hillbilly vs hillbilly smackdown extravaganza" to me LOL! if I may say so....giving up your patches to anybody outside your circle isn't ever a good idea though. I have some patches I found over 20 years ago when I was just a kid and nobody ever finds them. And I sure can't see where there's anything wrong with having a playboy bunny for a pet or picking partner. I wish I had one!


User_Name: itsalongshot
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 11:44 AM

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Doofus perhaps you can be the next Western sucker to get involved with that site’s owner and lead a mushroom foray into your favorite haunts. I advise looking at this site’s archives or talk to some regulars here who have not gotten paid or otherwise short changed by him or had photos used in his books without permission prior to spending money to join etc. I suggest starting with the ‘Mad Morel’, leave him a message on the mad Morel discussion board.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 10:55 AM

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Hey all, the morel mushroom hunting club website lists prices they are currently paying for different kinds of morels. I have never looked at that site before and found it by accident today while searching the interwebs for current general information. There are maps there too that show where morels are currently being found but I'm a little skeptical of some of the info as I live very near some of these allegedly great finds and have heard nothing credible about any such finds. And on my own, and my small circle of friends who have been doing or own scouting we have found none yet. Not saying it didn't happen but I seems rather unlikely. Any how there's tons of interesting reaing over there. Do your own due diligence. Like always, your on you own when it comes to separating mushroom fact from fiction.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 08:19 AM

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I meant no offense to people down there of course, being a "country" Oregonian myself. It's not that different there I assume, aside from the fact that we waste a lot of time schoolin' and book learnin' out here. LMAO some more!


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 08:13 AM

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That's a neat idea to get more weight out of your morels (leaving the long stem on) Maybe we can get people around here to accept that, except in my own basic study I've come to believe cutting the morel off, rather than pulling it out "root and all", leaves a little stump that often has another morel sprout right beside it. I don't see re-growing of another mushroom right beside the stump when I have just yanked the whole works out and then cut the stem off. Maybe leaving the stem on is a "cultural" thing - And what I know about that "culture" down there I learned on redneck island, redneck vacation, big redneck wedding and lately welcome to myrtle manor. LMFAO!


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 07:05 AM

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Daddy; were you able to locate any morels this weekend, I don't know if my information applied to your current areas? If you get back this summer on vacation, there are some good burns in WA. I don't know yet where or when I will be foraging but perhaps we can get a full bucket or so. Also congratulations on the renewal of your teaching contract for another year, perhaps you will locate some great mushroom areas over there. Greece seems to have come-on big time with morels this past month.


User_Name: Daddy in Italy
Date: Monday April 22, 2013
Time: 02:27 AM

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Eibs, I am currently in Italy but call home Washington. We lived in Sumner for a number of years. I can tell you that you can find naturals on the West side of the Cascades, but you have to look just inside the West side. As far as trees, it is no different than the east side other than you don't see many ponderosa pines on the west side. We always did well in mountain alder. Good luck. Daddy


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 08:20 PM

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Dan; a normal price for morels is about $45.00 per pound plus in Georgia and the Midwest, they don’t cut the stem short like is the standard out here. At morel contest forays this time of year they often auction morels at more than $100.00 per pound. I was once told by a forager that he had tied a string around the morel stem just below the cap and a new morel cap popped below the string. The stem weight below the cap is about the same per linear inch in the lower portion. By leaving those long stems that grow on some of the Eastern morels they can often get double the money from a morel that we would be only be selling by the cap for many fewer dollars. …….. …….. Eibs; there ought to be valley morels right now south of a fairly big town that I cannot recal the name of, near the airport, north of Seattle no more than 100 miles. I cannot say it is fact but it seems to me that areas conducive for chanterelles, matsutake and other fall mushrooms do not produce morels all that well. There are good morel areas but suggest you do research on tree habitat and where there might be rain shadows to find more morels on the west slope of the Cascades. …….. …….. Steve; in the East and Midwest elm trees are invaluable for morels. Old growth elms and ones dying on the inside just might produce a plethora of fresh morels; however I personally have not seen that phenomenon in Boise Idaho where we have numerous elms along streets and in the parks, I have not researched it in Oregon. That does not mean that it does not happen in the West, I just do not have personal experience with it being as I have spent most of my research time in mountainous areas where elms are not common or may not grow.


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 12:35 PM

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BTW the houses in that area go for 500k plus lucky them.


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 12:24 PM

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On another note I walked the streets about 40 blocks northeast of Portland yesterday. I had know idea that there were so many old growth elms there, One was about 20 or more feet in diameter at the base. I also found a very large elm that appeared to be dead not completely sure. I will be sure to look around that neighborhood for the Morels!


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 12:02 PM

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Hello, l Lobo I had the same exact thoughts. Some sellers will post things before they even happen, to generate internist. While people like you and I know better I don't ever count anyone out who knows he or she might be in some kind of Vally that produces micro climates? I know that's reaching lol but you never know.


User_Name: Eibs
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 10:26 AM

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Does anyone have any advice on picking morels in Western Wa? I've heard and read of people finding them but have had no luck, with the exception of landscape morels and the verpas of course. I've always driven to the east side to do my picking, but it would be nice to find a local haunt to hit during the week. A distributor I sell to on occasion claims he has a spot that produces 20 to 30 lbs each year. Any help with habitat and elevation would be greatly appreciated.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 09:31 AM

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I check out some on crigslist all around the country. It seems spotty at best. Somebody in Georgia wants big bucks for their morels and they don't even cut the foot off down there, apparently thinking they're good to eat? I know recreational pickers are looking for morels in the valley and around Or wherever but as far as I'm concerned it's simply too dry. Most of western Oregon is a foot or more BELOW normal rainfall for the year to date and that's a lot of rain that hasn't fallen. making this a not normal year. Wa and other places have gotten way more rain and I suspect the silence from early birds pickers there tells the story. I'll be passing on any Oregon mushrooming this year in favor of Wa where there's been more normal rainfall..


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 09:04 AM

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Dan; Last I heard the one north & south of the border was not yet producing, however it is the time of year and I would venture that anyone picking it is swearing their buyer to secrecy. That said, I know from experience that the buyers watch the shipping of morels very closely and then know what is transpiring where. Lower California burns near places like Redding ought to be putting out a few.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 08:05 AM

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Anyone hear anything regarding the nor cal burns yet? There's a big one out of Redding and a smaller one on the Or border. If they're gonna produce it should be happening.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 07:56 AM

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Here is another thought. This may be the only type of morel that this seller picks and thus the photograph always represents what will be delivered. The ad says; “I have several lbs. of beautiful, fresh-picked morel mushrooms for sale @ 15.00 a lb. Last ones of the year so don't miss out.” The babies may already be flushing or soil temperatures are at the correct flushing level. Whatever is transpiring, this is a smart seller who desires to market the product and have a buyer list ready for the flush.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 07:32 AM

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Steve; I notice that it says "last ones of the year", therefore I surmise that it is an old advertisement just being utilized in an attempt to generate interest for spring product whenever it starts flushing. I used to see this happen on Ebay and in my opinion some sellers use the same photo no matter which variety of morel they are pushing and will often tell the prospective buyer that what is in the photo might not exactly represent what they will actually receive. People might use such a way to get advance orders. I personally show photos of exactly which type of morel I might be selling and only run the advertisement on product that is available in-hand.


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Sunday April 21, 2013
Time: 12:01 AM

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Apparently someone in Independence Oregon is having luck. It is about 60 miles south of Portland http://corvallis.craigslist.org/grd/3755234417.html .


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Saturday April 20, 2013
Time: 11:55 PM

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I in the past have found many calf brain mushrooms but never have ate any. Peeps say they are safe if parboiled. I still don't think I'd eat them but who am I to judge I have as I'm sure some on here know tried other unmentionable mushrooms reportedly to be deadly? The discussion on verpa's is still up in the air too I'm not going to say if I eat them or not but I have seen people selling them at farmers markets?


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Saturday April 20, 2013
Time: 10:22 PM

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Went to the Oasis hot pools in SoCal today, nice to soak in the 110 degree water in the shade of palm trees. Almost all of the SnoBirds have driven their RV's north for the summer, there were only three Canadians at the soaking pools when we were there and they said they were leaving today. Still 80 degrees @ 10:20 pm Pacific Time.


User_Name: blue mtn picker
Date: Saturday April 20, 2013
Time: 09:53 PM

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april 20th 3 lbs of calf brains and 2 dozen morrels. made my week!!!!!!!!!


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Saturday April 20, 2013
Time: 10:25 AM

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Ya Man, Poison Oak, Rattlesnakes, ridiculously hard work for no money etc etc. Have we scared off everybody we can yet? LOL ! And we ain't hardly touched the issue of being at the mercy of the weather! (mother nature) You know there are people in other parts of the country right now who are watching their season go bye bye. Like last fall for us when there was no rain. That clock in my head keeps getting louder and louder though, the close we get to go time. We'll know soon enough what spring has brung us out here....


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday April 19, 2013
Time: 08:51 PM

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Dan Doofus; My saliva starts running as soon as I think of fresh fried morels. I used to jump-the-gun every spring by heading over to Ashland & Gold Hill by the end of February and all I would find were bark morels in the city parks in Ashland. I stopped going to the Rogue Valley when I realized I was surrounded by poison oak up Footes Creek, after that I was seeing poison plants everywhere. Then in fall while hunting matsutake in the Applegate area I again noticed way too much poison oak. Checked out a controlled burnsite in North Idaho one spring and saw young poison oak plants all around me that had possibly grown up due to the burning. I VEHEMENTLY DISLIKE POISON OAK… but it loves to make me turn red & itch. …….. …….. Northwestjones; thank you for that information, the best of luck to you in your picking endeavors. …….. We all ought to be glad iffin we are not under the 24 inches or so of fresh snow up Minnesota & Michigan way or the heavy flooding occurring in the Midwest just as morels were coming on big-time in some areas.


User_Name: Northwestjones
Date: Friday April 19, 2013
Time: 08:27 PM

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I just wanted to say, although I am a youngster and a hobby picker, I get more nuts and bolts info and "real talk" here then anywhere else. I may not pull off the quantity and quality that you experts do but I'm putting my time in by scouting and studying to hopefully achieve the knowledge and experience you people have when it comes to mushrooms.


User_Name: Northwestjones
Date: Friday April 19, 2013
Time: 06:17 PM

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Found a nice patch of morels today in the wilamette valley close to the foothills. Round 700 feet. Getting a bit closer I think. I only found one blonde though.


User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday April 19, 2013
Time: 12:00 PM

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Got this email today, We have fresh morel mushrooms for sale. Suwanee Ga. tjsermo@bellsouth.net


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Friday April 19, 2013
Time: 12:00 PM

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I just had a pavlovian response when I started thinking about the delicious fire morel with cheese and hamburger. I'm still kinda drooling a little bit.....


User_Name: shroomgirl
Date: Friday April 19, 2013
Time: 11:32 AM

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Hi there ya'll! Well, there have been some verpa's and morels picked in olympia, wa. this last weekend. I spent a lot of time the last two days looking at various higher elevations, from 500' up all the way to the snow line. (snowline was just for fun BTW). Have seen no sign at all. BUT, the weather is supposed to be getting sunny and warmer starting tomorrow in western Wa. Up into the 70's and sunny all week. Perhaps we will see some soon! Here's hoping for full buckets for us all!


User_Name: matsigurl
Date: Thursday April 18, 2013
Time: 08:53 PM

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The last few nights have certainly been cold in the Pacific Northwest. The days, however, have been beautiful...latest word on Morels around these parts was Steve from Oregon. (Thanks, Steve and good to know!) Up in Woodland, Wa, locals are reporting scattered areas of Verpa and Morel here and there. Hopefully, by this weekend, they should really be coming on strong. Happy Picking and Full Buckets to All...Matsigurl


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Thursday April 18, 2013
Time: 04:40 PM

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Ya I'm sure the false spring hooked more than a few who jumped the gun. Since I'm an entire crew unto myself (haha,) and it seems like the big burns are always a circus I don't worry about it too much since there's nothing that can be done about it. When I do a burn I always plan on working my ass off as fast as I can for as long as can. Daylight to dark baby, for as long as I can hang. in my 20's it was a helluva lot easier, I could get loaded every nite and still do it no problemo. Now in the 40's I gotta get a run at it, this year I started training in feb. And I wait to party till the burn is done!


User_Name: matsimama
Date: Thursday April 18, 2013
Time: 01:42 PM

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Had a "false spring" in a few areas and at the hint of a mushroom some areas have been filled with speculators. I despise mob scenes myself, and find crews generally destructive. I only know that running around before it's time sure can waste gas money (lol). Preserving the resource in my book is what makes for "skilled" labor. Best of luck to those who respect the natural world!


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday April 18, 2013
Time: 11:10 AM

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Thank You Shantyman; If the morels are on in your valley then they ought to be on in some higher elevation area patches down here that I know of that are more than a thousand mile drive north of the Mojave desert area here where I spent the winter. The last time I passed through your area the highway north was still gravel most of the way to the AlCan, beautiful country and Grayling fishing up past Cassiar was awesome.


User_Name: Shane
Date: Thursday April 18, 2013
Time: 11:08 AM

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@ Shantyman Are you finding enough product to sell any real volume yet? I may be interested in buying your product.


User_Name: shantyman
Date: Wednesday April 17, 2013
Time: 07:55 PM

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Now that the first morels are appearing on the south slopes here in Hazelton BC I'm thinking that I would like to get out and pick some volume morels for drying for personal use. Does anyone have some good leads as to burns close to me in N W BC which would be good. Also any of you serious Yukon pickers who want help around Cranberry later in the season willing to take me along during your summer exploits, let me know. I would love to tag along. Never really gotten into morels in a serious way and thinking this will be the season. Any help would be appreciated and also any of the "old guard" from ZOO days, it would be great to hear from you. Andy...aka the shantyman


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Wednesday April 17, 2013
Time: 07:24 PM

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An old friend went for a drive yesterday and reports the burns in wa still not quite ready, he saw a couple other scouts out doing the same thing he was though.....Funny, people always try to act natural like they're fishing or hunting or something? A girl I know that works at a coffee joint in sisters tells me she's seen a few vehicles with wa plates come through and when she ask's what up with you guys today, they clam up except one guy who actually said he was looking around for mushrooms.


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Wednesday April 17, 2013
Time: 07:06 PM

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matsigurl, I started finding verpa's last week along the columbia but still no morels. A goo friend of mine is sure they will be popping soon.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Wednesday April 17, 2013
Time: 08:53 AM

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Ah yes, Gold. I love it too. I've wondered from time to time over the years how many mushroom hunters were also gold hunters. Now that we have the internets machine thingy lots of things I used to wonder about are a little easier to see. I am planning on converting mushroom money into silver later in the year...As soon as the last of the "weak" hands are washed out. Gotta love these severe corrections. It shakes out the shot term thinkers, greedy dummies and chickens. In order the understand gold you gotta understand other things - Interest rates, debt, fiat paper, politics. etc etc.. But I'm sure some on here already know all this. Turn your mushroom money into gold/silver people. And then sit on it while the worlds financial system continues to unravel......This aint like the 70's at all.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Wednesday April 17, 2013
Time: 08:28 AM

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Eibs; I was so tired last night that i neglected/forgot to say what sniping meant. http://www.goldrushnuggets.com/snipingforgold.html


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 09:27 PM

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Sorry, I have chased gold all my life and it is much like mushrooms in that very few ever get wealthy, we love the chase so much that we neglect to stop and turn what we have found into profit. ........ I forgot that some of you might not have been around when Barry Goldwater ran for president. Back then most of us saw the AU H20 symbol everywhere and in the news promoting Gold Water. ........ Symbol: Au Atomic Number: 79. Atomic Mass... By the way Washington State has numerous areas for gold sniping, contact your local prospector club for help if it interests you.


User_Name: Eibs
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 09:14 PM

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Thanks Lobo. Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by sniping for AU?


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 07:48 PM

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I tried the link {had to copy and paste} but it wants a person to join FaceBook if they have not done so. Of course I found it showing up on my home page but the link I made does not click. The photo is of 25 pounds of yellow & gray morels picked today, some are of very nice size.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 07:37 PM

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00ps, forgot to post this link to a photo of a nice midwestern yellow morel haul picked today? https://www.facebook.com/shroominator.lee?hc_location=stream


User_Name: lobo
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 07:33 PM

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I started selling to restaurants and stores soon after beginning my mushroom years but often the price received is only 8 to 10 dollars per pound because they must resell in one manner or another. I truly liked it when a buyer paid me more in the field than I could get from driving numerous of miles to sell for less. …….. As for lychee baskets in Washington or Oregon I would call some of the mushroom brokers via the phone book who purchase them in large quantities. Try to get new ones that are flexible and have not color-faded or become brittle from sun exposure. …….. I do desire to pick and dry a few morels to hold me over the winter down in the SW but still plan to focus most of available energy this summer sniping for AU. I really do not miss the winter rain & snows of the NW, but I do miss seeing & smelling the conifirs.


User_Name: Eibs
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 07:07 PM

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Well, this guy has no intentions of quitting his job for a hopefully monster year for all. I hunt/pick for shear pleasure. I dream of hiking out of the hills with a back loaded with these beauties. I moved to the NW a couple years ago and figured out the naturals. This is my first fire pick, so I am trying to be prepared in case I'm lucky enough to find a nice flush, which is why I was inquiring about the baskets. I do sell to some of the restaurants and markets in my area, but it's mainly to cover costs. I appreciate the advice on where to hopefully purchase these baskets. I've got a couple more ideas now. Good luck everybody!!


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 05:02 PM

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Agreed. The pines have become just another mushroom and that's fine. People learn about them, like to eat them, and can buy them at hole foods or wherever for a price most can afford and that's a good thing overall. I hate to see people especially young people get caught up in thinking they're gonna make big bucks picking morels (or any mushrooms.) Few actually do and It's hard dirty work as we well know and most people are unaccustomed to driving themselves hard enough to come out much ahead. I've seen people sit down and light up a cigarette after 2 hours and that's it. They're done for the day. Being in good shape is a must, since it's very competitive. He or she that gets the mushroom gets the money. There's no point in eating up 50 buck worth of groceries and gas in your rig just to sell your days haul for 50 bucks. And if you did the math by the hour most people would find on average it's far worse than a job at the mall for min wage. And again, most people are unaccustomed to pushing themselves that hard all damned day. It's like old time production work! Unless you can throw it into high gear and stay that way for hours and hours you don't get the money! Morels remind me of picking strawberries when I was a kid. OMG. even as a youngster my back would ache at the end of the day. And most of us went straight home and crashed after working our ass off for maybe 25.00. So you really need some kind of "background" in this type of thing I think. Meaning it works best for those who are a little twisted and not afraid to punish themselves for a few bucks.


User_Name: Lone Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 01:33 PM

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I have sold at prices that appeared to be the 'carrot price' to get the pickers out into the woods and as soon as the area fills up with foragers it drops like a rock, it happens each year in varying degrees. ......... Rogue Valley Oregon is the area of the NW where the morels seem to first come on in volume. Georgia and other southern areas often have been producing for as long as a month and morels from there command a much higher price, not just because they are the first in the US but also because of the type and variety. ........ Folks in the Midwest often receive a much higher premium for their grays & yellows but the season travels much faster from south to north than in the west and in some areas only lasts about two weeks long whereas in the western states the 'blacks' might not start in volume in Oregon until mid to late April. Blacks are not perceived to be as valuable in the industry as are the yellows of the Midwest in the New York market where much of prices are controlled. ........ There are some California areas that do produce prior to the Georgia morels but this year it started late and the price is already as low as $12.00 at the buy stations. It is also possible that the European and New York import areas got flooded early-on depending upon weather in other areas of the world. If this has occurred this year the we can expect to get only a few bucks per pound at the buy stations. .......... Supply and Demand makes our clouds or sunshine. Only a few years back one business partnership wished to build up a large inventory of dried fire morels and thus they were paying higher prices, $12.00 per pound for fire morels {even ash-splashed} all summer long at a huge burnsite in Idaho. I do not know if they controlled the dried morel market that winter or if their willingness to purchase morels that ought to have been thrown away caused them to go broke. However there were several other companies attempting to purchase morels in a tight market area around the main exit road from inside the burn. My son and I were getting $12.00 and sometimes even more while burnsites in other areas or states were most likely only getting $3.00 per pound. ....... We most likely will never see the hundreds of $ per pound price frenzy that occurred in 1994 as the demand for matsutake exceeded supply, but the memories are all good and the Emperors 'crown prince' son is now married and even if his wife ever delivers a male heir there are just too many world-wide players selling matsutake and too few traditionalists left who would wish to celebrate the occasion by consuming Matsutake, the Emperors Mushroom.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 10:46 AM

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Oh ya imported mushrooms and their impact on our prices here, but gimme a break! You get what you pay for. I'm a fan of domestic and local pretty much anything regarding most food. Be it beer, mushrooms, whatever. We got LOTS of good stuff right here and I'm including Canada in the "we" too. We're rapidly approaching the point where more people better understand the meaning of "Buy American The Job You Save May Be Your Own". Just sayin'


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 10:30 AM

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I've long thought those high prices you hear some people quoting at the beginning of a season are simply the "hook" to get you to go looking for mushrooms......But once you've done that a few times you begin to realize something -By the time you, or anybody else, actually gets to a buying station with mushrooms the price has dropped and it's like oh, wow dude, it was just like I dunno last nite the price dropped ! how weird! wow! In other words nobody was actually paying the supposed higher price ever anyway and I have always suspected they never had any intention of doing so.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 16, 2013
Time: 12:49 AM

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0K, I believe it was too much of an exaggeration to leave the number of lychee baskets in a shipping container at a million when it is more likely a hundred thousand or so, you would need to ask someone who purchases them from their origin. I was told once how many baskets one needed to purchase and what the cost was at that time but this is now and the price most likely has gone up exponentially. ......... ........There are several factors that control how much a forager can get for his daily morel pickings. We used to get much more $ for our labor back before enterprising souls started shipping morels from other countries to the same markets we sell our NW product to in spring. The same factors come into play with other mushroom varieties later in the year as more and more product is flooded into the market. {one example of this is matsutake} ......... ........ In any given year there are countries and states where the soils warm up earlier than the NW. For example the first week of April 1996 I began picking an Oregon burnsite and driving the morels to Gold Hill to sell to a buyer there. At that time the only morels coming in to the buy station were naturals from the Rogue River Valley, {blacks & whites}, some pickers saw me unloading my haul and desired to know from whence they came. Of course I did not tell them and they did not know what conica were so they did not figure it out right away. However within about two weeks, pickers who knew conica fire morels when they saw them soon figured out where I was working and flooded the market which drove the prices down to about $25.00 per pound and it dropped lower as other burnsites began flushing. ........ As the years have gone past the memories of higher prices for morels in spring and matsutake in Autumn continue to stay fresh as the flesh ages and weakens.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Monday April 15, 2013
Time: 11:27 PM

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Eibs; I cannot tell you where to purchase only a few baskets unless you can find a company or buyer willing to sell some; possibly $5.00 or more each depending upon availability and/or willingness. I was given some a few years ago but they had been exposed to the sun too often and were brittle and break whenever used. Mushroom companies who send out buyers with the type of lychee baskets (not sure of proper spelling) that you possibly are looking for often purchase them by the container load from overseas. Being as one company might not be able to use a million more-or-less baskets they often work together to share the expense. It is very expensive to replace baskets when you need to order so many at one time. ................................. Dan Doofus; I agree with you and the price is sure to drop that low as soon as the conica begin to happen in volume. In the mid 90's the buy station price was often an average of $45.00 as the Rogue Valley began to flush, this year it may be as low as $12.00, but that is for naturals, blondes usually bring a bit more. Anyone who quits a job in this economy to chase mushrooms or even try to learn how to make money chasing them ought to look in the mirror first. and reconsider. It is at times like this that I wish we still lived in Wenatchee so that it would be a closer drive to Idaho. Back-in-the-days of the mid to late 80's, friends tried to get me to pick and sell fire morels but I was so busy trying to get gold from my mine that I drove right past pickers working a burn all summer long.


User_Name: Eibs
Date: Monday April 15, 2013
Time: 10:04 PM

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Hello all. Very excited for the morel season. Will someone please tell me where I can purchase the plastic baskets that you strap onto your backpack? Maybe I'm using the wrong terminology when google searching, but I've had a heck of a time finding them. Any help is appreciated.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 15, 2013
Time: 04:08 PM

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For what it's worth - I agree. It's coming but it aint time yet. I predict only the hardcore commercial pickers who like to work themselves to near death just for the hell of it (people like me LOL!) will come out much ahead of expenses this spring even though there's plenty of area to choose from in several states. Don't quit you steady day job, if you have one, to go look for mushrooms people. Relatively speaking, morels at 3.00 a pound and gas at 1.29 a gallon (mid 90's prices) is different than morels at 5 or 6 bucks and gas at almost 4.00 (this year prices?) In other words going out and picking mushrooms aint keeping up with the cost of the expenses to do it. And for the vast majority of ordinary people - buying some morels at hole foods or a similar place will actually SAVE you a bunch of money over the cost of going into the woods and trying to find them yourself.


User_Name: matsigurl
Date: Sunday April 14, 2013
Time: 11:01 PM

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I just couldn't resist the urge to take a hike down the banks of the Columbia River amongst the cottonwoods to see if I could find the elusive morel. There wasn't a Verpa or Morel anywhere. I know some spots here in the PacNW that produce SOLID every season. It just isn't time yet. Be patient. The good side to the hunt: all the nature you want to take in while looking ... Full Buckets all and Happy Spring to Everyone


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Sunday April 14, 2013
Time: 07:01 PM

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Ya Lobo knows whats up with the snakes up there. I dont know what kind they are and really does it make any difference? I mean as far as I'm concerned they're all same. They hang out n the rocky brush mostly. Even right at the rivers edge. I'm kinda liking the burns in wa best right now. it's a bit far to Idaho or Montana for me and Oregon is just way too dry. Expenses especially gas is the killer of your profit.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Sunday April 14, 2013
Time: 06:04 PM

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nate; you forgot Washington, there are good ones all over the map this year and you can almost throw a dart and choose. It all depends upon moisture, crowding, permit availability, etc etc etc, the usual things. As for rattlesnakes, I have never yet run into one that was a problem for me. One did attack from above but I heard it leave it's ledge and I spun around on the Salmon River trail that I was hiking down to a friends ranch, it hit my backpack, I broke my favorite maple walking stick in attempting to render it for frying but it escaped over the edge of the trail. I did eat quite a few in the 80's while dredging for gold on the Salmon River. I had to throw a favorite large aluminum pot away that I boiled two in at one day instead of frying them as I normally do. ........ When i was a youngster my father got his photo in the Idaho Statesman Newspaper holding a large Timber Rattler that he had killed between the pine trees and Grimes Creek while we were on our annual spring Easter Picnic.


User_Name: nate in sd
Date: Sunday April 14, 2013
Time: 03:28 PM

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so then Idaho burn vs Montana burn vs Oregon burn?


User_Name: ITK
Date: Sunday April 14, 2013
Time: 10:48 AM

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Anyone seen that crazy chech bastard and that dog of his that share the same name?


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Saturday April 13, 2013
Time: 09:58 PM

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I agree with you Dan with two possible additions. What about Timber Rattlers which are the predominate type in my experience in our Idaho timbered, areas mostly below 6,000'. ........ They aren't the same as Diamond Backs or Desert Sidewinders and yes baby rattlers are very dangerous with venom reportedly much more concentrated and potent due to young age.


User_Name: leemeagan
Date: Saturday April 13, 2013
Time: 06:46 PM

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We have fresh verpa mushrooms and fresh half breeds for sale right now. We live in Oregon please contact us if interested...541-922-2931


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Saturday April 13, 2013
Time: 09:37 AM

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My 2 cents on rattlesnakes up there....As a teenager I spent some time during spring breaks and summer vacation in those mountains, a school friend had family up there and we had great fun fishing, shooting and exploring that area. I found out some things about the rattlers up there first hand - 1 they don't always rattle before they strike 2. Little rattlesnakes don't make hardly any noise even they do rattle since the rattles are small. 3 they like the rocky brushy areas best, not really timbered areas so much. Even then I would have never let the presence of them snakes stop me from going in there and I sure wouldn't let it stop me now. Some of the best fishing up there requires a hike through rattlesnake infested brush and rocks but hey, you do what you gotta do! You just gotta get adjusted to your environment. ie.. keep you eyes open and learn where the snakes are most likely to hang out. One thing about them is if they can they will usually try to get away from you - actually striking at you is their last option. Er usually anyway...


User_Name: One More thang…
Date: Friday April 12, 2013
Time: 01:55 PM

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One More thang… For a snake bite or puncture bite the shock must also travel down through the whole puncture not just across the surface like with a bee sting. { by-the-by, I have had friends who are allergic to bee-venom in Idaho tell me that their doctors advised them to purchase a stun gun for reversing the venom and to carry the usual anti venom kit as a back-up method.} Back to the snake puncture wounds; they shock across the surface and then place extension wires to facilitate full penetration. I use solderless connectors with coated wire and make a solder nub at the end of each wire or leave the copper exposed. The connectors must be of a size to slip firmly over the stun gun prongs and wires long enough to place one into the puncture hole and one directly opposite on leg, arm or torso. My body releases the trigger due to the shock automatically before I can burn myself and I have read that the DC cannot harm body or even a pace maker. There again do your own research before trusting mine, never try AC for it can kill you and will not reverse the venom’s polarity.


User_Name: Lone Lobo
Date: Friday April 12, 2013
Time: 01:14 PM

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00ps, one more thang about the snattle-rakes. Every time we have a burn in the Salmon River areas in Idaho there are snake-bit pickers who see the morels growing down in the burned-out stump & root holes. They stick their hand & arm in and come out bit. ........ Poke a stick in first or use a grabber instead of your hand. ........ Research first before placing your life in the hands of a stung gun. ........ I have read where it has been successfully used on every snake bite except the Two Step. But there are d-bunkers about it also and always figured they might possibly have their hands in the cookie jar-payola of companies who make anti-venom. I have used it successfully on bee stings but have never been snake bit. Your VET can legally use one on your pet to reverse the venom [it has been reportedly done two or three days after a dog was bit on the face] but I do not know if the FDA has come on board yet for humans. ......... My understanding is it must be DC off a capacitor or coil. The first time I had it used on myself was with copper wires on each side of a huge swelling from a large black hornet who stung me in the back. ........ We used a Honda bike way back in the boonies at a mine, one wire into the plug wire end and one to the frame; kicked the kick start then did it one more time for grins & giggles. Ouch, but the swelling and pain was gone in 20 minutes which is the amount of time it took to get it set up. ........ I had read that article in Outdoor Life only a few days prior to the trip to do annual assessment work at my friends silver mine, and in the 35 or more years since then I have used a lower-range stun-gun or a home-made one made from an instant camera, again google it.


User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday April 12, 2013
Time: 12:29 PM

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nate in sd; I have not checked to see where permits will be issued this year, but I do know that you do not want to be caught without one if you have in possession more mushrooms than allowed for personal use. Most forests require a permit for personal use picking also. ........ There is a buyer that I trust based out of Darby Montana which is just over the hill from the Mustang burnsite. It is possible that he has already secured access through some of the private land for his pickers but I have not asked him. Another is Joe D and he can put you in contact with the buyer in Darby. ........ Joe D posted a phone number on this page: Wednesday April 03, 2013 Time: 08:25 PM; He buys tons of western morels of every kind.........Then there is the buyer list in the margin to your right on this page, just click on it or go here, to ''Buyer & Picker Contacts''; http://matsiman.com/bypiccontact/buyer_contacts.htm ......... One more comment on the Mustang Complex iffin you go there. If I were a young man with lots of energy I would park along the main Salmon River road and hike up into the lower timber pockets which may not be more that 1/4 mile in some places and up to two miles at 45 plus degree slope in other areas. The advantage would be possibly no competition. ........ Disadvantages are of course the snakes [ I carry a stun gun with solder-less connector wires for reversing venom, I first read about it in Outdoor Life about 35 years ago, google it ] , the steepness, dry climate in lower canyon, without rain there are few morels, but you might access pockets that are killer if you like to gamble. .......... One more thought; if you are new to fire morel foraging then you are much better off learning near a buy station at an easily accessed burn where you can go ask questions often. Best of luck to you.


User_Name: nate in sd
Date: Thursday April 11, 2013
Time: 09:06 PM

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Lobo, Do you know of any other locations where they are giving commercial permits? And where do you think the best burn to go to is this year and if the buyer stations will be there? I really just want to go where they are going to be so I dont have to merchandise my mushrooms myself.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Thursday April 11, 2013
Time: 08:54 PM

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nate in sd; best of luck to you. There are a few factors to consider with the Mustang Complex. Much of the area has burned in previous years and you will find that burn sites further northeast in Montana will be most likely easier access with fewer areas previously burned. The easiest access to the eastern edge will be west of the paved highway going to Montana; there is a stream and much private property there but the timber type is more conducive for a fire morel crop in that canyon. …….. Overall it is predominately a southern aspect burn consisting of grass & brush. To access many of the areas above and from the main Salmon River Road you may need to hike up a thousand or more feet in elevation through the lower rattlesnake infested area of steep canyon and rocky cliffs. There is at least one main dirt road access that goes north up through the burn from the main Salmon paved road but expect it to have heavy use and possible closures if culverts need repair in the burned area. …….. When the center portion burned, chainsaws were utilized to open a different upper road that does not go to the bottom of the canyon. This was done by cutting the deep snow drifts into manageable blocks to slide out of the way, that area produced very well but that was then and this is a different ball game.


User_Name: dewofheaven
Date: Thursday April 11, 2013
Time: 06:25 PM

Messages

i perfer oregon


User_Name: dewofheaven
Date: Thursday April 11, 2013
Time: 06:24 PM

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so are you a crew need a personal buyer lol im a buyer lookin for a fire too plant my self for a few!!!!! give me a tex 541/991/9276


User_Name: nate in sd
Date: Thursday April 11, 2013
Time: 02:38 PM

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Just was on the phone for quite a while, looks like the buyers are going to be on the Mustang complex fire near Salmon Idaho in the Salmon Challis NF. The Fire from last year burned over 300 thousand acres. They are finalizing the commercial permits in the next couple days and will be available to purchase in the next couple weeks. Its gonna be a big harvest See you there!


User_Name: nate in sd
Date: Thursday April 11, 2013
Time: 01:47 PM

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Dan, I am looking forward to it very much, and would love the opportunity to partake in interracial gambling situations... lol. I am def a second generation hippy. I am having trouble finding any info online anywhere about where the buyer stations are going to be, I am just trying to go and make the best of it where ever they are.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Thursday April 11, 2013
Time: 06:51 AM

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Nate in SD; Best of luck to you in your tent camping-morel picking. I camped in my pickup for a few seasons during the fall mushroom harvest in the early 90's and it was some of the best experiences of my life. I met former loggers turned mushroom pickers, old hippies and other second generation hippie types like myself. Made friends with and gambled and drank with Cambodian pickers, which was all by itself an amazing experience. Occasional trips into town for supplies and to do laundry and your good to go. When I go to the woods I get disconnected from the world and in some ways hate to go back to town. Even as hard work as mushroom picking is, I always find it a renewing rejuvenating experience.


User_Name: nate in sd
Date: Thursday April 11, 2013
Time: 01:15 AM

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Is there anywhere to get info on where the morel buying stations will be in 2013? I am currently layed off and was thinking about tent camping for the short season where the buy stations are and seeing if I can make some extra money, I am looking to do the Montana burn sites, any info would be appreciated.


User_Name: pickinpox
Date: Wednesday April 10, 2013
Time: 05:19 PM

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New WA laws as well.. If you are not a commercial picker you must slice your mushrooms laterally, immediately upon harvest. So as to not be saleable. I am not a fan of this for I prefer to dry mine whole..When I talked to the Rangers in Cle Elum they had not begun to issue commercial permits yet and don't plan to do so until the 15th at the earliest. This is depending on fruitings and a lot of the roads have had culvert replacement due to washouts. So they are waiting for them to harden up. I am hoping the bill in OR doesn't get through. It will mean we (Washingtonians) will be dealing with it in the near future. More regulation will due little to nothing to help their "stated agenda". Laws that are already in place need to be enforced before new laws are created. Anywho... Full baskets everybody. Oh yeah don't hate on the loggers guys without them we wouldn't have roads to drive down...:) Seriously


User_Name: flu-fighter
Date: Wednesday April 10, 2013
Time: 02:49 PM

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Lone Lobo: Glad to hear you are feeling better. Better than anything to have God on your side!!!


User_Name: Lone Lobo
Date: Wednesday April 10, 2013
Time: 01:31 PM

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Steve & flu-fighter I am doing better, thank you. I do plan to do a bit more than usual "golding" this summer but feel that I work better alone, but will keep you in mind. Hadn’t had the flu all this winter but did drink lots of conk tea. Received a priesthood blessing at noon Sunday from my HP Group Leader who came to our home to see me. He is a registered nurse PA with his own clinic and in the blessing I was told that I would know what to do, sometimes I forget. [He tried to get me to go immediately to the hospital for pneumonia admission], I had been prompted for three days to brew some of my Tiaga Tea but had spaced it off due to recovering from a diabetes medication reaction. Drank tea up until my emergency VA appointment 2:00pm on Monday and my lungs had already cleared up and phlegm had gone from yellow & green to clear & white. Thank You Lord.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 09, 2013
Time: 08:01 PM

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Just saw on the u-gene news tonite u-gene Orygon is 12 inches BELOW normal rainfall for the year to date. Wow. A quick look at the US drought monitor shows the dry conditions have spread over most of Oregon. Wa on the other hand, looks super with no drought in the cascades, most importantly, in the burned areas from last summer.


User_Name: flu-fighter
Date: Tuesday April 09, 2013
Time: 05:37 PM

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Steve-- I'm from Oregon too, and there were quite a few flu bugs in my neck of the woods. Whenever I felt I might come down with something I drank apple cider vinegar (the faint of heart can water it a bit)--the Braggs kind, unprocessed with "the mother" intact. Then I got lots of sleep. Didn't get sick, but then I take vitamin D and Centrum type vitamins as well. And for those of us with weak knees, fish oil capsules help. Good luck and good health to all us "older but better" shroomers!


User_Name: Steve from Oregon
Date: Tuesday April 09, 2013
Time: 12:46 AM

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Hello, Hope you get over what ever you got Lobo. I've been fighting off odd flu bugs this year that I'm not use to having the fact I have twin 2 year olds might be apart of it. I have been following your gold adventures for well about 7 to 10 years if you need a partner I might be able to make it work. Got over a 100,000 frequent flyer miles and 2 good Subaru's :) What do you all think is a fair price for nettles?


User_Name: shroomertom
Date: Monday April 08, 2013
Time: 05:18 PM

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Dan is right about the herbicide (DIOXIN--sounds worse when you use accurate terminology) use. I can remember one morning in1996 in the old Ramsey Canyon fire in So. OR--two years after. A crew of Hispanics (with no safety gear) spraying our camp, themselves and everything around it. We soon felt like crap and got out of there. Which was good, because the timber co. called the staters in and we had no shrooms. What about fire retardants? Some of these must be very toxic (acidic) because the morels stop where the telltale colors begin!


User_Name: bc picker
Date: Monday April 08, 2013
Time: 02:02 PM

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their is the odd mushroom around lower bc,no money to keep goin yet,middel of may should be game on,have to be rite place rite time,hopefolly the knees will hold in for the season,even if they dont iam goin to do it anyways,the states looks like they have mega season enjoy


User_Name: CHILLY
Date: Sunday April 07, 2013
Time: 10:58 PM

Messages

anyone got any information on morel buyers in interior BC


User_Name: EWVMP
Date: Sunday April 07, 2013
Time: 09:08 PM

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I went out today - 1300ft elevation. The trilliums were in bloom, bracket fern fiddleheads were starting to unfold, also. It seemed like a good day to find a bucket full - but nada. I worked down along the Santiam River, and ended at about 245ft - nada. Every sign looked soooo good, but the only shrooms I saw today were an old rotting Ganoderma oregonense, some Turkey tails (Trametes versicolor), and some others I didn't care to explore. What's this on the morel map saying 31lbs and 30lbs found in Oregon? I thought I would have found at least one - old or new.


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Sunday April 07, 2013
Time: 08:04 PM

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Been down with pneumonia so have not gotten out to forage any spring merkles yet. May take my own advice and focus on gold instead. ............... Loads of information to sort through here but it is good to read mushroom dialogue when it is healthy and to share insights as we perceive them. .............. Joe Dough; listen to voice mail or respond to text, I have fire morel research ready to ship.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Sunday April 07, 2013
Time: 07:30 PM

Messages

Anybody got anything to share regarding morels? Huh? Come on, somebody knows somethin'!


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Sunday April 07, 2013
Time: 07:27 PM

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24-D AND 245T were the go to chemicals they sprayed in the 70's. That stuff was poison and they finally got it stopped. I cant believe the crap corporations get away with generally. See, this is the kind of mess we end up in when the world is adjusted to the their best interests, rather than people and the environment. Somebody drew a line between jobs and environmental destruction and the public went oh ok duh....


User_Name: mtn morels
Date: Sunday April 07, 2013
Time: 06:33 PM

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If you see nothing green in the clearcut, don't harvest morels...


User_Name: sandman
Date: Sunday April 07, 2013
Time: 05:33 PM

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The most disturbing aspect of timber management these days is the use of herbicides. At a series of meetings hosted by our local Siuslaw water shed council, a representative for a private timber company landowner explained how they believe they can increase production by shortening rotations to 20 years and the herbicides are essential to kill off competing vegetation. When asked how many rotations it will take before the soil is so seriously compromised, The answer given was "about 7". Next question was "then what", answer "chemical fertilizers". How insane is that? Why has it come to this? A study back in the late 60's determined that a sustainable timber harvest of 10 billion board feet per year was based on a 200 year rotation cycle. That concept was abandoned in the early 70's with the introduction of the GM "super tree" (which failed BTW) claiming it could grow 3 times faster. So rather than wait to see if the "super trees" worked, logging was instantly put into high gear to three times the sustainable guidelines that were previously recommended. "Growing stock" should be redefined as to how much fiber is produced, and not how many trees are planted. It is the outer ring of a tree that is the "fiber" that is produced each year. The bigger the tree, the more fiber. It takes a lot of "pecker poles" to equal the amount of fiber produced by one 200 yr old tree. So in an effort to squeeze out every nickle, the idea now is to grow and cut as fast as possible, and poison the shit out of everything. Morel hunters might want to inquire about herbicide use in clear cuts. Just a thought.


User_Name: tester
Date: Sunday April 07, 2013
Time: 11:09 AM

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this is a test of the new line-spacing capability attempt If there is an empty line above this one, it is working correctly. I typed text, hit "enter" twice, and typed again.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date:      Sunday April 07, 2013
Time:      09:13 AM

Messages:

Ya what boletus joe said. On a positive note the economic issues have reduced the demand for lumber to some degree. 
And before someone starts screaming but the jobs! the jobs jobs! in environmentally
 destructive occupations, why not start looking at jobs from a sustainable perspective? I love wind and solar, and 
it is where energy will come from when oil gets too expensive. (soon). We need to move away from resource 
depletion and environmental destruction as a way to create jobs. We don't live in a bran 
 new world were the earth can be continually plundered for it natural resources, without consequences.

User_Name: Carla
Date: Sunday April 07, 2013
Time: 10:11 AM

Messages

Good Morning everyone :-)


User_Name: Jim Wells
Date: Saturday April 06, 2013
Time: 07:59 PM

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Rex, your statement: "Everyone, including myself, is expressing their programming" seemed to me to be courageous, accurate, succinct, and humble. If we ever happen to be working together on improving government mushroom policy, I will be glad to be trying to do that with someone I know has such capability.................................................................................................................................................................................................We are like the 5 Blind Men and the Elephant, each trying to describe the beast from knowledge of a different set of only parts of it.


User_Name: Jennifer97302
Date: Saturday April 06, 2013
Time: 07:38 PM

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Hello all long time no type lol


User_Name: PWhite
Date: Saturday April 06, 2013
Time: 01:12 PM

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Looking to find out how to pick and where to take morrells that have around my house.


User_Name: Northwestjones
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 08:03 PM

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Btw, I just a picture from a few folks in washington...Looks like they are finding lots of morels as we speak.


User_Name: Northwest jones
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 08:01 PM

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Why is making more laws and regulations seem to be the only solution?? I've never understood that.


User_Name: TruffleDog
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 07:04 PM

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Forests are not the same as industrial timber land. I also think that collecting truffles with dogs should be allowed on the USFS ground. The concern is habitat disturbance and collection of sensitive species. Dogs are selective. Digging tools should be limited to the same as matsutake.


User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 04:57 PM

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Climate Change and logging....I don't know how long it will take. But at the rate of change I have noticed ----- EG: all the fires in the western states. -----it won't be long before there are so many morels that they won't be worth .25 cents a LB. and as the climate continues to warm the habitat for said mushrooms will keep moving north into Canuck land. So I would imagine we will see a bunch of new laws spawned (pun intended) up this way. Shit I hope you guys get a lid on all this BS. Really!! There should be no rules for picking/pickers of sustainable forest products until the loggers are made accountable for all the damage they have brought to the table. An army of pickers could not do the damage to the bush in ten years, that a logging company does in 10 days. You can pick shrooms every year, But you can only really log about every 80 - 110 years. Who's the BAD guy here???????


User_Name: Sandman
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 04:26 PM

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"Everyone, including myself, is expressing their programming.": AGREED, DITTO. "If I have to look like a loon or a jerk to not have to pay an additional $600 a year to the State for them to do NOTHING but collect the fees, so be it.": DITTO "A great deal of what the government has been doing in recent times amounts to either 1. A protection racket ....Or 2. A shake down racket by where you are required to "pay tribute" to the state or, they simply stick their hand in your pocket and pull out whatever amount they want.": AGREED "I don't buy the logic that says simply increasing the size and scope of a state bureaucracy and regulatory apparatus regarding mushroom harvesting equates to improvement.": AMEN "Habitat loss and /or destruction is the number on(e) reason for the decline in many plant and animal species. Picking mushrooms is one thing, logging the forest where they grow another: CONCUR People, all of us, make mistakes. What matters most is our intentions.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 12:30 PM

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Truffledog, I like that question and have wondered about the science of that myself. Nature is a process in motion? Habitat loss and /or destruction is the number on reason for the decline in many plant and animal species. Picking mushrooms is one thing, logging the forest where they grow another.


User_Name: TruffleDog
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 12:20 PM

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One of the most interesting questions that has come from this is from shoomertom: Is anyone doing any studies on the effects of the fire suppression/energy generation biomass removal on spring porcini?


User_Name: Rex Swartzendruber
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 10:58 AM

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Get Serious! Better link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIT016TJjTY


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 10:28 AM

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Btw - I don't buy the logic that says simply increasing the size and scope of a state bureaucracy and regulatory apparatus regarding mushroom harvesting equates to improvement. We have got to wake up to the game of funding our own oppression.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 09:29 AM

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IMO - A great deal of what the government has been doing in recent times amounts to either 1. A protection racket (terror terror, be afraid little people, oh and by the way we'll be stealing your rights and freedom while promising you protection. (Classic definition of a protection racket)................Or 2. A shake down racket by where you are required to "pay tribute" to the state or, they simply stick their hand in your pocket and pull out whatever amount they want. So now commercial harvesters will have to pay even more money, right up front, weather they find mushrooms in a paying quantity or not. Ya that would be so much better for everyone.


User_Name: Rex Swartzendruber
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 08:52 AM

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I find this whole thing to be rather disturbing. Everyone, including myself, is expressing their programming. If I have to look like a loon or a jerk to not have to pay an additional $600 a year to the State for them to do NOTHING but collect the fees, so be it. I really find this whole increased regulation planning rather Blasé. I see no forest management for the fungi, only collection of permit fees from pickers. I help run a non-profit in Salem that supports local business. I help do things like this: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aIT016TJjTY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaIT016TJjTY


User_Name: Jim Wells
Date: Friday April 05, 2013
Time: 01:32 AM

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1) What percentage of a year-round commercial picker's gross receipts is consumed by permit fees? Is it a cost of doing business that is a drop in the bucket, a deal killer, or somewhere in between? 2) I took Sandman's "12-mile" comment as a response to being accused of trying to create a bureaucratic mushroom job for himself because he had gotten too old to climb hills, and I can attest that walking 12 miles a day in sand dunes as carefully as he does and yet as fast as he does and yet detecting and extracting as many hypogeous #1 shrooms as he does as carefully as he does is physically more like walking 60 or more miles a day. 3) It has already been a misdemeanor for about 20 years in Oregon to transport wild mushrooms without landowner permission and also to not keep records for one year of the landowner permission had by any harvesters one purchased from. And that was already part of an almost completely worthless and onerous law -- the law that had been opened for amendment for the first time ever and for what may be the only time for another twenty years but "the industry" (and David Arora) decided to try to shoot the openers instead of trying to seize the opening. How self-defeating is that? 4) I agree that more wild mushroom "permitting" is not the answer to the very real negatives Jeremy and others cite (and which I have cited for decades.) I'd like to see thoughts on what a doable answer to those negatives could be. Not enough space here to explain how I, a 4-decade money-where-my-mouth-is opponent of suppression of the little guy and advocate for beating the system, came to be a proponent of licensing/certification, but a good deal of it has to do with how -- given the narrow options available in our messed-up society -- to make a paradigm shift away from a system that assumes harvesters to be criminals and requires government land agencies to issue them permits in order "to protect the resource" -- to make a paradigm shift towards a system based upon, and which fosters, mutual respect and therefore assumes the resource will be respected by other means by ALL parties.


User_Name: EWVMP
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 10:51 PM

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“I have always found the existing regulations applying to wild fungi to be burdensome without providing compensatory benefits. And most certainly they do little-to-nothing to help demonstrate to citizens that the wild fungi resource is highly valuable (and I do not mean “worth money”.) As long as society continues to lack a proper respect for it, many of us will remain feeling viewed as, and/or actually feeling ourselves to be second and third class participants in society when we exercise our mycopassions. And we all will continue to watch land management and other policies and actions fail to consider their effects on fungi.” Jim – I felt this was an insightful paragraph. Those who know can feel these intangibles and recognize the tangibles, but it is difficult to get others to “feel” the same as we do without finding this passion. That is why, I guess, people consider everything a commodity today. It has only recently been “discovered” the “other” values of intact forests, for example. I agree and disagree with your assumption that SB578 and its counterpart, SB578-1, is a good start down the path to change. I have mostly postulated, through “John’s group” processes, and after, to “kill” this bill, for the very reason others have expressed, namely that of state revenue building and state control, and for its exclusionary outcome to those who rely on this resource for income. SB578-1 was of the same bent and mentality, albeit with some language that pertained to conservation, but this was of an inconsequential degree. SB578-1, using higher fees, was meant to curb those who wished to partake in this industry, both those established pickers and those wishing to enter into this vocation. SB578-1 was largely targeted to those not from our state, as evidenced by testimony given by Al King and Jack Czarecki at the public hearing, and by the many discussions by our group’s head and its members. John’s fear-mongering rhetoric and hearsay letters claiming the crush of “outsiders” – in the future – is unsubstantiated and rejected by numerous people, leading stakeholders, and others, to believe him not to be a credible witness. Where I do agree with your thoughts on SB578 and its sister-amendment is it got people talking; it has brought to the forefront a matter that needs to be discussed at the state as well as the local level; and, it elevates and validates this long tradition of special forest product use in our state by underrepresented people. The status quo has been let out of the bag, so to say, and it cannot easily be put back in. Interested groups need to work, collaboratively, to “fix” this “perceived” problem of resource depletion and chaos in the forests. I propose an entire rework of ORS 164.813. This statute’s vague comprehension to special forest products uses by indigenous and other peoples is incredulous. I personally think it should be made “user friendly,” but by whom, at what cost, and how? Those are the enigmatic questions. I have probably voiced my opinion as much as others have on a few mushroom forums, and I probably do fit your definition of a “jerk” as you so described, as I have tried to stop this bill from getting any legs by causing “controversy.” However, I was careful not to spread untruths, propaganda, or slander, and if I have done any of those things, for that I will apologize. Notice I did not beg you for the answer that is on everyone’s mind – “Who requested that SB578 be written” – because, I no longer care. Smoke and mirrors have never kept my interest very long. That is one reason I left “John’s group.” (I do not mean this as a slam; it has just become such a tiresome subject for me and apparently a HUGE secret for others.) John – You had your say – feel better? However, before you go accusing me of attacking your character, look in a mirror, bub. I have indeed lost a lot of respect for you as a leader; that is certainly true. Your diatribe here tells my side better than any words from me can ever explain. I do know how it went down, and who tipped-off Fred and Carl that led them to contact our group.


User_Name: Jeremy
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 10:29 PM

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Sandman your comments are distasteful and absurd. I do not even need to quote the one but it is dishonorable. This coming from someone who wants to legitimize the industry? Ive never posted on here but would like to say more permitting is not the answer. It is easier to purchase a semi automatic weapon and as much ammunition for it then it is to be a commercial harvester and buyer. Alot of us do this year round and not for 3 months, 12 miles is a short day for us. We already need permits for every NF we pick in, which can be up to 20 a year, BLM in numerous states, DNR in numerous states, private land and more. To legally harvest everything that us truly commercial pickers do, can take over $4000 a year in permits with all sorts of stipulations. No matter what we are already doing something illegal according to them. All this billl really would accomplish is making more people criminals, and now actually charged with a misdemeanor in Oregon. Yes i care about impact on our forests, but come on there are ORV's in the dunes and horses and cattle all over NF land. Put your biases aside and stand for the betterment of the industry as a whole and us who have popularized the great products we harvest. Our industries impact on this planet is so minimal compared to the above and the laws/regulations already so burdensome.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 06:56 PM

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Hey I'm just wondering - do any field buyers make use of twitter or have updates on their web sites as to where they are located when mushrooms are popping so the pickers can find them? Those three burns up in wa are huge areas and I'd prefer not to have to drive around randomly trying to find where the buyers are set up.


User_Name: Northwestjones
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 04:33 PM

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Thanks seller, I will up the price a bit when the time comes. I have a lot of friends that went to culinary school and are now chefs and they bug me constantly for local mushrooms. I figure this is my opportunity.


User_Name: seller
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 04:04 PM

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Northwestjones: You should charge more when selling to a restaurant because you are providing the services and personal attention that a company would provide in regard to both quality and transportation. I know people who sold for the same or 50 cents more and regretted it because they got no respect for their extra efforts. (Not exorbitant or equivalent prices, however.)


User_Name: Jim Wells
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 02:38 PM

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Rex~ I invite you to contact me directly to discuss the matter of your business name. You had my email address before, but if you no longer do, I invite you to ask Andy for it (via his email address listed on this website)


User_Name: Jim Wells
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 02:33 PM

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Truffle Dog~ "The disappointed part comes from desiring actual communication and realizing that with some people discussion is just not possible." Interesting. That is how I feel about individuals who insist on continuing to act like jerks. Perhaps you are intimating that you are not that type of person. It was difficult for me to see your jumping on the bandwagon of blaming me for the SB578 mess as "discussion", but perhaps your doing so was merely a flash of the human tendency to "dog pile". I will now be open to seeing that I too quickly judged you. I did notice that you have made several short suggestions of regulatory ideas. Not sure if they were sarcastic. Care to elaborate?


User_Name: Jim Wells
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 02:18 PM

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I guess I don't know how to use HTML codes correctly, or for postings here. I tried to make paragraphs (<p></p>) and line separations (<br>) and italics (<i></i>). Kinda' hard to read all that when it runs together. oh well


User_Name: Jim Wells
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 02:12 PM

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Looks like I gotta’ be here again. Additional info called for. <br> <p>Michael Vaughn: I was pretty surprised that Joe Rohleder was able to so quickly and easily tell me who had requested SB578 to be written. All I had said to him was that I sure wish I knew, because it could affect my testimony. </p> <br> <p> I was surprised because when I had asked John who had written it and he had said he did not know and that the folks in your group had asked and were told that no one knew, I had assumed that the folks in your group had asked Rohleter, and if he had not told you, it must have been because he did not know. </p> <br> <p>But a likely answer to that riddle soon occurred to me. To folks who work with laws, regulations, policy, and legislative process all the time, terminology <i>really</i> matters. “Bill”, “amendment”, “legislation”, “law”, “rule”, “guideline”, “policy”, etc., are <i>very</i> specific terms to them. But to those of us who don’t live and breathe that world, they seem interchangeable, and we usually do interchange them. My previous activism experiences had shown me the value of (nay, NEED to) speak the language of one’s audience if one wishes to be heard, and my whirlwind research attempts on this matter before attending the hearing had required me to bone me up on some of the easily-confusing language of the Oregon legislative arena. Perhaps I simply used accurate terminology to describe to Rohleter what I was curious about, whereas the terminology that anyone in your group had used with him had meant something different to him. </p> <br> <p>For instance, is it possible that Rohleter was asked who wrote “the original bill” or “the original legislation”? The phrase “original” bill could easily be interpreted to mean the one that had led to the passing of Oregon Revised Statute 164.813 (a law) 20-ish years ago. The “original legislation” would certainly have been heard by him as referring to ORS 164.813. </p> <br> <p></p> I cannot be sure of course – just an hypothesis, albeit at least an accomplice, if not a likely culprit. All I do know is that if he had been asked: “Who requested that SB578 be written?”, I expect he would have known exactly what was being asked of him.</p> <br> <p>Which also brings up another bit of potentially useful info. If Rohleter had been asked: “Who wrote SB578?”, he might have replied: “The Oregon Legislative Council.” That is because Oregon legislative bills are not written like the recent, so-called “Monsanto Protection Act” rider to the federal Appropriations bill was (written by Monsanto) or the myriads of “Right to Work” horseshit (IMO) bills (some which became laws) that have recently cropped up in state legislatures around the country (written by the American Legislative Council, a private lobbying group.) The Oregon Legislative Council is a non-partisan Oregon state legislative service agency that actually writes the bills that are considered by the Oregon legislature. True, they write the bills at the request of whomever asks them to do so in a manner consistent with the rules of making such requests, but their job includes making sure the bills are written in form and phrase of legislative-ese and that the bills do not propose anything that could easily be costly waste of the legislature’s time (such as adopting language in conflict with court decisions regarding precedence of specific federal laws.) That is why I used the phrase “who had requested SB578 to be written” instead of “who wrote SB578.” </p> <br> <p>Now, as long as I am taking the time to be here, I will oblige your call for questions of you, Michael.</p> <br> <p>Because my long letter (posted April 1) was not in response to anything (to my knowledge) that you had posted, that you found most of it to be “blah” is not hard to fathom. Apparently you waded through it all. Based upon how John had described to me how hard and well you had worked with him to try to craft a comprehensive approach to an appropriate, effective framework for wild fungi valorization, atop a piece of basically bad protoplasm, in such a limited time frame, I would have expected no less of you. If you were a person of far less ability in that regard, I would apologize to you for otherwise boring you in order to present you with a “good point”. But, in your case, I only ask: What was that “good point”, and what are your more thoughts about it? </p>


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 11:45 AM

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Great! We can agree the problems you have with "tweekers" and high concentrations of pickers in your area are not problems in much of the rest of Oregon where mushrooms are gathered? Or not nearly as much anyway? Maybe your area needs more regulation but not other area's where we have little to no "tweeker" activity and a far lower concentration of people harvesting? Maybe "tweekers" are a societal issue, more than a mushroom issue. I mean isn't it a reflection on an ill society when there is demand for that kind of poison anyway? But can we continue to be hyper reactive everytime something bad happens somewhere? The fact is the current political class has become so neurotic/mental and gotten so grandiose and bold, I expect them to propose banning deep water and gravity soon, I mean they're very dangerous, ya know...And no I'm not talking about the issue of guns here.


User_Name: sandman
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 11:15 AM

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Thank you Dan Doofus. And I will stop. You make a good point here, as well as other good points you have made on other issues. I want to mention, it is not the ones who are intimidating I'm worried about. It is some local who 'snaps' as a result of it. The Japanese couple simple quite going there. But I worry about what I have heard regarding what some locals have said. Most all of the harvesters here are good people who take very good care of this resource, and have for over 2 decades. Picking the dunes without leaving footprints and keeping all the moss and needles looking like no mushroom has ever been picked, takes skill and people are proud to be good at what they do. The best pickers do not intrude on each other. We know it is a waste of time to try to pick in an area that someone else has mastered. The ones I worry about are the unstable 'tweakers' from this area. I have had one pull a knife on me before. There were large groups that over ran Chanterelle areas and that really shocked some people here. These groups are tied in with the new buyer in town. People feel their lively hoods are threatened and some disturbing comments have been circulating. I have dismissed most of the talk as just picker gossip, but all it will take is one loose canon to make the news. The idea of a license would make it harder for the illegal 'tweaker' nite pickers, and scale back large groups to some degree. The serious commercial harvesters are willing to pay for the right to pick. We pay dearly for our Matsi permits, and some don't even make their money back, but they pay every year just so they can legally pick. They love it that much. And when someone sees their favorite moss bed all ripped up, it has been stated many times "it's like watching your daughter get raped". Fights have broken out over these kinds of things years ago, before all those kinds of disturbances diminished. Now things have evolved to the point that most all the ground is well taken care of. The 'tweakers' spend many hours in the nite with less and less rewards. One of them smashed my windshield last year. I actually chuckled, because I knew I was doing my job well.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 09:50 AM

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Wow Sandman, Your last post really tells the "story". Doesn't it. Please, for your own reputations sake, if no other, stop with that "boogie man" crap. (poor Japanese people threatened at knifepoint OMG!! FEAR, FEAR!!) It's this kind of wild west story garbage that unduly scares the public and makes all mushroom pickers look like bad. Which, if you want them to stay out of the woods, wood be ok I guess. I remember the bs news stories in the newspapers twenty years ago about how the wild west mentality and gun play were common in the woods over mushrooms. The Oregonian ran a few of them. It was bs then since actual incidents of violence were quite rare. And I know ' that for fact personally 'cause I was there! You have a better chance of being shot or robbed walking down the street in town than you do out in woods gathering mushrooms, and I think you know that.


User_Name: sandman
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 09:30 AM

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To all you other folks, I apologize for bringing this up again but after reading Mike Vaughn's message, I have to point out a couple things.Michael, I never thought you would stoop to throwing out character assassinations, or twisting the truth. Your loyalty is clearly to Rex AKA SalemSitter & TruffleDog (who doesn't even use a truffle dog). First off, nobody in the group knew, so we did not withhold. It was mentioned over and over to get a hold of mycological groups. I spent a day with LCMS with two other members of the group, what did YOU do? Did you even contact anyone? You told me early on that Rex mentioned to you that something was in the works long before I knew anything about it, did you ever report back to Rex what our group was working on? I don't know the guy, never met him, so if he is a friend of yours, why didn't YOU contact him. The group was NOT trying to keep people out! I was very busy researching the legal specifics of registering the group, talking with tax people, an attorney, and a week long correspondence with a college instructor fallowed by a sit down with him that lasted for hours regarding filing for a non-profit. By the way, there have been some changes, so this group will be registered under a slightly different name/purpose/and status. Yes, the original bill sucked, everybody knows that. But it did crack the door open to get things on the table, and a lot is going to happen in "mushroom land" before we get another session. We do not live in a perfect world, especially when it comes to politics, but it is what it is. I did NOT allude to anything, I made the phone calls to Fred and Carl, not the other way around. Both those guys started at Roblen's office, then to Al, then to Joe. They did not track ME down, I contacted them, so get your facts straight Michael!!! Fear mongering? No, it is real! But you don't know anything about the commercial industry, it's history, or it's dark side. Just last week I received another report about a Japanese couple just south of here, that went to their favorite Matsutake area with their 5 year old daughter, only to be greeted by a clan who were "flicking their knives" at them and their 5 year old child. The industry "heavyweights" as you put it, will NEVER agree to anything that interferes with their mode of operation. They make millions of dollars on exploiting the Asian people. I don't believe the harvesters are paying Carls wages, do you? Cheap hard working labor, that is very effective in taking over resources. I have said it a hundred times, "I don't blame those harvesters, it is opportunity for them". I blame the industry, and management. It boils down to who gets the mushrooms in the bucket, and then bring your buckets to me (the companies). But hey, you don't have a clue how that works, do you Michael. You are just in your happy little bubble. As far as the truffle industry, dogs are transforming this industry, and for the better. You know, like they do in Europe. And there are old timers who are just too proud to admit there is a better way than how they have always done it. I have received rave revues for EVERY truffle I have sent! It takes a lot of work to do it right, and just passing them on like buckets of rocks is what nearly killed the reputation of Oregon truffles. However, if YOU would have attended the hearing, would have heard me say that I don't take sides on the issue of rakes vs dogs. I know it will develop on it's own, and eventually the dinosaurs will fade away. 8 years ago the truffle industry was going down in a fiery crash. Too many people sending crap for far too long. The price was reaching pathetic lows, and still nobody wanted them. If it wasn't for Jack, Jim, and Charles LeFevre, the truffle industry would have been in the waste heap by now. I was present during all of this, so this is not not second hand information or interpretation. Just getting Bon Appetit (Jacks doing) to come out and take a second look while risking returning back to their foodie circles back east, just to hear "we told you so", was a huge turning point. People like Rex should be thankful that the industry has been given a second chance. As far as David Arora, I had several back and forth emails with him since his post on Mushtalk, and the out come was good. He not only saw my point, he understood it. And my final comment to you Michael is your last comment here reminds me of an uncle of mine who gets all worked up after watching Fox News. Mushrooms are so incredible, they bring out the true nature in people. The people who know me know I have always acted for the better of the whole, and not my selfish interests. My motto is "we all have a lot to learn". I never will, or never have, claim to know all the answers. I can only do the best I can to help. I have no respect for self righteous negative people. End of discussion. Lets get back to the good stuff. I can't wait to pick and eat some fresh Morels !!! I think it's going to be a great season!


User_Name: Rex Swartzendruber
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 08:57 AM

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Full Disclosure: Sorry, I missed the actual Jim letter. Jim, if you had not registered my business name, I would have forgotten about you by now.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 08:20 AM

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Well there you have it, apparently from an inside source. Not surprising really. People being people and all.. In the letter posted by "John" I got a whif of something I never like to hear but is very commonly used especially by politicians. He basically said - What we did was better than nothing. As if doing something, even if bad or wrong, equates to better than doing nothing? and then there was his " the boogie man might come" thrown in there. (conflict between pickers leading to violence he alluded to potentially) and then the f'n feds would have to step in etc blah blah. Those were big 'ol red flags for me right there.


User_Name: TruffleDog
Date: Thursday April 04, 2013
Time: 07:49 AM

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Thanks to the Jim Wellsian poster! That was the best April Fool's joke all year! You left me both confused and disappointed. You nailed Jim's incoherent ramblings! I find it easier to understand what a person is attempting to communicate when they have a clear picture in their minds of what they are trying to convey. This clarity generally comes with being well acquainted with the topic one is attempting to discuss. The disappointed part comes from desiring actual communication and realizing that with some people discussion is just not possible.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Wednesday April 03, 2013
Time: 08:54 PM

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PS - I Heard from an old friend who went for a field trip today that the snow has been melting fast off those burns in the Okanogin/Wenatchee natl forest. he says maybe three weeks give or take till flushing should start. I got a good feeling about this spring morel season up there..Commercial permits 5.00 per day but hey, in a good harvest that shouldn't kill anybody.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Wednesday April 03, 2013
Time: 08:48 PM

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Hey Northwestjones - How 'bout the ones with tattoos in them.....Yes?...No?...Omg! I'm crackin' me up! I personally have never sold any mushrooms to a restaurant. Plus, I've been out of the whole mushroom thing for several years so I'm about as clueless as you could get, aside from the ordinary field buyers.


User_Name: Joe D
Date: Wednesday April 03, 2013
Time: 08:25 PM

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Looking for Southern Oregon Blonde Morels Will pick up 541-3061478


User_Name: EWVMP
Date: Wednesday April 03, 2013
Time: 08:19 PM

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Oops! I should have led with how I was, at one time, part of this group. Bet you figured it out on your own by now.


User_Name: Mike Vaughn (EWVMP)
Date: Wednesday April 03, 2013
Time: 08:01 PM

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First, I want to say that I believe SalemSitter is spot-on in his/her assessments of this issue. (Even if I believe, he/she is wrong about Jim Wells’ involvement – think Al King and Jack Czarneki. I will never know for sure, even when I asked directly, in person and in email, nobody in our group would share with me that information. However, Joe Rohleder tells Jim Wells who wrote the original bill the moment he reaches Salem!! This is lying to me, and the rest of our group, through omission, I think! Thanks Al, Joe, John and Jack; I’m glad you think so highly of the rest of us!) Fortunately, this bill and its amendment are spiraling to a fiery crash. Most people who have weighed in on this issue have spoken strongly against the concept of ill-conceived regulations, as have many industry heavyweights. (Catch David Arora’s biting rhetoric in Yahoo! Mushroom Talk [MT].) I have chosen to speak to this forum now, because Anna More, as she let you know in an earlier post, I have expressed my opinions MT. John has alluded to the fact of speaking with OMS president Fred Shipley and Carl Wilmsen, Executive director of Northwest Forest Worker Center. This is true, but he, in fact, did not reach out to these two heads, they tracked him down after being “tipped” about how we were working on this legislation. Is this lying by omission, also? I’ll let John work that one out. It is funny how opinions change over time. At first, my opinion of being involved, and agreeing to join John’s group, was that of making a difference on how mushrooms are harvested in this state, was much like Billy Mumphry’s “unbridled enthusiasm,” to use a Seinfeld quote. Quickly, however,I decided that this bill was nothing more than revenue builder for the state, and bad for the industry, state revenue, and all Oregonians who enjoy our fungal resources while making a full-time income from mushrooms, or merely supplementing their income. Early on, I voiced my opinion, to John, that we should kill this bill, but I was true to the group up until my departure. In my resignation letter, I also stated this same opinion: “My considered opinion is to “kill” SB 578... I cannot continue in good faith, as I will soon become a liability to your goals and aspirations.” This bill could not be “fixed” as our groups mission set out to do. To change the way we regulate this resource must not come from a small, exclusionary group of users bent on self-interested preservation. It is a much, much bigger undertaking than that! It deserves time, focus, and science-based research. Not fear mongering and lopsided hearsay. Sorry, I will cut to the chase: This bill had much more to do with excluding people from engaging in commercial harvesting, than for conserving resources. In fact, it was conservation and “stewardship” by exclusion. This exclusionary process extended to other mycological groups, pickers, buyers, and the rest of people who think of themselves stakeholders of this issue. To be fair, Anna Moore did try to get other groups involved. Although our small groups overwhelming agreement and visions on conservation efforts was without question, exclusion was the overbearing solution to get the job done. John has pointed out, on several occasions, that our time was short in trying to craft an amendment to the original bill – this is the more reason to kill it, in my opinion. Before I turn into Jim Wells’ blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, good point, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, I will stop here. Any questions?


User_Name: Northwestjones
Date: Wednesday April 03, 2013
Time: 05:21 PM

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Ha! Funny gi. @ Dan. I have a question, what's the proper pricing procedure when selling straight to a restaurant? Should it be raised because the middle man is gone? Or is that just something you shouldn't do??


User_Name: sheryl
Date: Wednesday April 03, 2013
Time: 02:51 PM

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Morel season is coming and I am determined that this year I am not going without buying some Morels. My fav.... Anyone know where I can buy some locally??


User_Name: SalemSitter
Date: Wednesday April 03, 2013
Time: 07:36 AM

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Nothing John has to say at this time can change his actions. John and his group have stated their public agenda which makes little sense. Unfortunately, this is a closed group that is not transparent about membership, process, or motives. This leaves conjecture as the only option. The point is that this group is trying to force this legislation on everyone by acting like they represent some huge segment of the mushroom industry. Note to John: You do not represent an open organization that has elected leadership.


User_Name: morels4u
Date: Wednesday April 03, 2013
Time: 03:06 AM

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Southern Oregon blonde morel prices from Louie (may vary by customer or time of day) 3-26-13 20.00 4-1-13 17.00 4-2-13 10.00 pretty steep drop! these are cream of the crop natural blonde and grey morels. couldn't bear to sell mine, guess I'll have the nicest lookin driers around.


User_Name: scott
Date: Tuesday April 02, 2013
Time: 04:14 PM

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Calimushroomer call Scott at 541-892-6409 for prices on morels.


User_Name: sandman
Date: Tuesday April 02, 2013
Time: 09:30 AM

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This time last year we were still cleaning up after a major snow storm. Last weekend was in the 70's. Native plants are blooming. Hoping for a fabulous spring crop of mushrooms. Let it be!


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 02, 2013
Time: 09:01 AM

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Northwestjones; I like clearcuts with taco's in them. hehe


User_Name: Golden Lobo
Date: Tuesday April 02, 2013
Time: 08:51 AM

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WoW; this board has livened up since March 8th and mushroom foragers seem to be coming out of hibernation. I would need to look into the archives but would venture a guess that it has never been so lively here this early in the year. May the God of fungi bless each and every one of us with an abundant harvest for our culinary pleasure and the willingness to be patient with others as they express their postulations.


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Tuesday April 02, 2013
Time: 08:14 AM

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Calimushroomer; I'm too far north and not well enough connected to help you find a buyer there but if you wouldn't mind letting us know what elevation your finding them at it would be greatly appreciated.


User_Name: Calimushroomer
Date: Tuesday April 02, 2013
Time: 08:07 AM

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Is anyone interested or know anyone interested in buying morels in northeren California or southern Oregon? If so how much do they go for?


User_Name: sandman
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 07:46 PM

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To PineKing, Thank you very much for your kind words! I really do appreciate it!


User_Name: sandman
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 07:24 PM

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This note is for matsiman, I was reading your message posted on 3-25 @ 4:47. I just want to say that your "reliable" source is not so reliable. Just more made up stories. I NEVER took out any body from the legislature to show them truffle raking. I do not take sides on dogs vs rakers for truffle harvesting. There is such a thing as responsible raking. I just prefer to use a dog. (I made that statement at the hearing as well). I do know that with using a dog you can get 10 times as many truffles out of a given area each season, and I suspect that future seasons in that given area will be far more productive. I have been able to observe this in an area I have exclusive permission to harvest in. Last year I ran off a couple poachers who dug up a section in the heart of the best part of the patch, and I saw what they had which was maybe a quarter of a pound. The area they dug up had no more truffles to offer the rest of the season, and this season it did not produce very well either. Yet I can harvest this patch over and over 2 or three times a week, for three straight months with my dog and pick consecutive fruitings of truffles, and the areas that have never been dug up just get better and better. And again, I DO NOT take sides on the issue. I know too many people who I respect that use a rake. I am confident that in time people will realize that the dog is the best way to go.


User_Name: Jim Wells
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 06:38 PM

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This post confirms how easy it is to write what is not true. 1) I wrote I would not be visiting here on my own initiative, but I am 2) My motivation to do so was to report that re-reading my long letter I immediately noticed its paragraph about the testimonies of the mushroom company heads was not literally accurate. Out of respect for dying horses I won't re-phrase it now, and its main purpose did not rest on its complete accuracy anyway. Out of respect for morels, too! It has been over a decade since I have been able to get away to do any serious morel picking and even though it almost feels like yesterday every All Fool's Day, I'm jealous. My favorite, by far. Happy huntings, I'm turning back now.


User_Name: PineKing
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 05:51 PM

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"John Getz" to my recollection is a good man and true to his word. I met him in the early 90`s in the Dunes. A buddy of ours (Clint Callow) introduced us. Nice guy, and knows his stuff.


User_Name: Northwestjones
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 03:01 PM

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How do you all feel about clear cuts with burn rings in them? Just thought I would throw that out there haha


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 10:17 AM

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Ok, I'll end with one last thought, even though I'm a "garbage-in-garbage-out" kinda guy. - It's not like we haven't been living in a world where we have to give up our rights and/or freedom to do whatever so we can be "kept safe" from something. (maybe dangerous, unregulated mushrooms? OMG they're so confusing, which are good and which are bad?) And it's not like we haven't been living in a world where politicians/special interests either create the "circumstances" or try to capitalize on them for personal gain or to foreward their own agenda. Oh no. I guess I'm suspicious of that stuff for nothin'.


User_Name: shroomgirl
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 09:29 AM

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Alright ya'll. Enough of beating a dead horse. What is -is what it is! If it happens, we have no control over it. The bottom line is, we like to pick mushrooms. So let's get back to that subject! K? There were a handful of Morels found in the skagit valley area yesterday if anyone is interested. Full buckets ya'll!


User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 08:44 AM

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Up here north of 49...... Well said Dan D. Maybe it's because I/we don't live below the 49th.... but I look at what is going on down there somewhat like looking in a mirror. And what I see scares the crap out of me. We're all in the same boat, you guys might be a little closer to the water , but still the same boat. Our country is trying to keep up with the rest of the world by exporting all our natural resources ---- Logs, natural Gas, Oil, minerals, coal. The one very big difference here is a lot smaller population base and a whole lot less GUNS. Sadly Dan I think there will have to be a major shift/decrease in the world population.... before we see any real improvement in where the path to the future will take us. Sometimes I feel like I got on the wrong train, and I can see that the bridge is out up ahead. Do I jump? Do I apply the brakes? Damn I can't jump someone locked the door..... and the brakes are designed for a smaller train. So, I guess I will just have to try and enjoy what is left of the ride......... Good luck with all your efforts...... BTW.. I'm a Boomer approaching my last phase....lol


User_Name: Jim Wells
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 08:43 AM

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Jim Wells Letter

In all the years this site has existed, you have never seen me post here


March

 


User_Name: Dan Doofus
Date: Monday April 01, 2013
Time: 08:10 AM

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I was done commenting on this issue till I read Sandman's post this morning. These are interesting times we're living in for sure. Old systems are failing and/or fading away and new ones are beginning to fill the voids. The boomers are approaching, or already in, the last phase of the human life cycle. The young are forcing change as the boomers once did. Especially with regard to environmental and social policy. It's really a period of transition we're in, from where we've been, to where were going. Peak oil is real. Global climate change is real. The forest have been over-logged and the oceans over-fished. The impact of humans on the earth and it's resources, especially in the last 100 years or so is entirely unsustainable. At this point it's clear the way humans live will change in the not too distant future, dramatically, in some ways. In the not too distant future everyone will understand what the word sustainable means. Not just us tree huggers/dirt worshipers. Putting aside currently living people's personal and commercial interest in our natural resources for a moment, the absolute most important issue is not passing on a poisoned, polluted, trashed, clearcut, fished to extinction, world for the people of the future to live in. I want to harvest mushrooms. I love the outdoors in the way all "tuned-in" humans do. Some people like to say people like me live "close to the earth" but really, all people do, it's just that some realize it and some don't. It ain't a straight line to the future. It's more of a long, winding trail with ups and downs. Aside from everyone's personal interest in the mushrooms for various reasons, the most important issue is the overall well being of the mushrooms themselves.

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