I obviously have to much time on my hands, and can't hardly wait to be off the computor and in the mountains.
Anyone want to make comments on their thought's about 12/21/2012? Just wondering if anyone wants to chat while we wait for mushrooms? Something else to talk about. Any taker's?
Wild Side, I pick around Mt Rainier, west side of the Cascades, about 2000 feet. I find a drainage that has devils club, thats the kind of place I do the best lobster picking! Good luck and full buckets! p.s. I'm not excited yet, I'll give it another week and go check again.
TK, what general area are the lobsters starting? we (wife, kids and I) now pick mostly in west kootenays Canada. any info. is much appreciated.
Very, very slow pop and erratic. Must be the weather has been to cold and dry on the coast....
The lobsters are on, now they need to start poping!
aw crap, she was a breath of fresh air. tabitha had done all her own homework for her markets and was definately "dialed-in" to the industry. met her in boston bar last year and worked side by side for awhile. Actually bought some of her overflow too. smart and sure of herself, all in all a good egg. she will be missed. -Rob the semi-retired mush buyer
Aunti,Trudy was diagnosed with cancer,but she certainly hasn't passed away.We are all praying that she will recover,and I am positive she will.Keep the prayers coming!
Good Morning Pickers, does anyone know when Trudy pass away? Auntie Molly
I have'nt nor will I foreget Trudy in my prayer's!
AMEN!!! Danielofthewoods!!! It's one of the hardest thing's to do!!!
i dont know why im doing this.. but a really nice lady named tabitha patten was buying mushrooms in the port alberni region and i just found out she died sometime in the last couple months just thought I might let others know as well RIP GOOD BUDDY
Here is a link to a interesting web page about the changa conks. "http://www.survivaltopics.com/survival/the-chaga-natures-medicinal-mushroom/">
I found a nice hemlock log with a healthy colonie of ganoderma tsugae last fall ..... got a couple of books along with a few hours spend on the web filtering searches ..... did my homework , got some with the brown spores all over em ... dryied em cut em up and made a tincture , I drank some part of last winter ,( 2 ounces every morning ) has a really nice taste , I added a little honey to cut the bitterness ..... sweet ! I strongly believe in this mushroom ..... look up it's properties ... amazing !! here's a picture of one of em I harvested last year ... http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z96/samder007/DSCN3584.jpg wonder why they call them varnish shelf ? lol Chaga is also on my list ...
I also have Changa conk for sale so.
There are a couple adds for Changa conks on http://matsiman.com/buysellshrooms.htm Later, Matsiman
i have an accquaintance who swears he has a natural product that helps people with a few different ailments one being Cancer .... i am going to follow up on this ... he said you make a tea out of the natural product , ...... he told me some people that he has given this product to have had great results with it and there has been no side effects or interaction with any treatments they are taking.... i will post if i find out more.... don't want to say too much until i do find out more.... all i know is natural would be nice and he said it was a weed so it sounds different than the other things posted here..... ger
For those looking for cancer preventive conk, just type in Chaga into your google search. Or go to www.fiddleheadheaven.com for what info I have there. It is everywhere on the internet now, and makes a great tea as well. The Russians & Chinese have been drinking it for centuries now. I have been drinking it daily for over three years now and it has done wonders for me.....Dwight In New Brunswick
PH.... I have made tea from "Artist Conk" (Ganaderma Lucidium)harvested from alder trees. I have never had any side effects. Other than it seems to make me nice and mellow....... Not sure if it is beneficial or not. But I do enjoy the flavor.... I am located on the west coast. I am sure that there are different properties involved depending on area and tree species. Not having suffered from any major ailments up to now, I have no way of knowing if conk tea is, or has been beneficial for me. But hey I am healthy for now.....
Boletus Joe what properties in conk tea-any specific hardwood tree it grows on? and any known reactions to meds? thanks PH
gidday, hope all is well out there. Keith Hunter, any news re: harvesting practices workshop? many thanks. some Boletes starting... happy trails.
Hi there.... seeing that we are talking cures and things. "Smurfmother" mentioned quote" Cancer is anaerobic--occuring without the presence of oxygen, and basically indicates a body chemistry gone totally wrong." This brought to mind something I had heard about a while back. http://www.oneminutecure.com/ I know of two people that have had some amazing results from this, not for cancer treatment, but for other ailments. Worth a look see. Also would like to say to "Skookum Chef" about the last post.... Why wait to try conk tea, It is a great preventative. She should start ASAP if she is prone to cancer.
AMEN on the prayer, I have a friend who had chemo for leukemia three times, two hips & one shoulder replaced all before her 20th birthday and cannot lift more than 5 lbs, life expectancy was 5 months but with prayer she has lived another 18 years. She desires to try conks before submitting to radiation again if diagnosed.
I did get up early this morning and go to Shelton, Matlock area and found some nice button chantrelle's. We need rain in this area to bring them on! Don't let me scare you with praying, it works!!! Marion E. Seyfarth 111 aka Marin!
Smurfmother, my sister Sheila is proof positive that prayers do work! She went into the hospitol on Wednsday 7/14/10, she was put on a ventalabur with in hours, pneumonia, she tried to breath on her on until Saturday night. She crashed, meaning that the machine's did all the breathing for her, Wednsday 7/21/10. She opened her eye's briefly for my Dad when he talked to her, she has improved to the point of being off the ventaltor and talking some what, today. She had dreamed she was kidnapped by lots and lots of Chinese! When she saw her daughter Megan in Woodland she knew she was safe! God is Great! Thank you all for your PRAYERS!!! TK aka Marin!!!
Internet is surely great source of info--not to mention support networks of people with similar medical problems and what they did that was successful. A good trusted medical authority would help someone consider ALL options as well. Cut, burn, and chemically treat are not all there is to consider any more! (Although the first is sometimes necessary and the latter two have been modified to be less toxic in the last 10 years, there are many other ways to go. Cancer is anaerobic--occuring without the presence of oxygen, and basically indicates a body chemistry gone totally wrong. Anaerobes create an acid environment in the blood and cause a chain of damage--the blood should be slightly alkaline. Proper nutrition, exercise, massage therapy, anti-cancer foods, conks, medicines, teas,and just a good support network of well-wishing and helpful friends plus a positive attitude work wonders--I have seen it. Prayers also have been shown to work.!
Thought and prayers out to Trudy and Bill-missed them not coming north the last couple of years and so have others.
Cancer is no fun, TRY THIS LINK FOR mushroom MEDICINAL & CANCER INFO... http://www.mushroomhunting.org/index.php?showforum=9
I'm praying for Trudy and Bill, they are very wonderful people who helped me in the early 1990's while they were buying in Randle, WA. I will continue to pray for them as I pray for Sheila in Vancouver, WA
price is around 7/lb for fresh quality morel. happy pickin!!
I have seen people beat cancer using natural medicines. Wishing Trudy success in her battle!
While we are praying for others right now I would like to ask for some prayers for Bill and Trudy who buy for Misty. I was notified a few days ago that Trudy has Cancer. My prayers go out to them as they begin their battle. They are great people and deserve your prayers and support.
Prayers for Sheila. Give me a general location and I can put her on my Christian prayer network.
In the middle of June, I'v been in Liard River and Smith River fire for a two week and went up to Yukon (150 Km north of Watson Lake) to check out. In Yukon too dry and just waste my time, saw some Quebecois pickers they said making between 20 to 3olb a day, $3.5/lb and only one buyer. In Liar Hot Spring, the burn not good neither, jumping fire and no road access to fire(only one road to tower about 10km) pickers parking cars along Hwy 97 and walked in to jumping fire. Most picker got about the same as in Yukon but better price $5.00/lb with two buyers. It took me 24hrs drive from Terrace Mth to Liard Hot Spring. On the way back home I stop at Kelly lake fire(Clinton) not much there. I then back to Terrace Mtn again, not many pickers in here, but Morel still can find between 15 to 30 lb/day with two buyer Fredy and Rob at 28Km of Stuart FRS. I hope this info might help someone who want to know. And to whom it may concern, I did pray for Sheila.
Just was at Kelly Creek fire on Friday people coming and going not much lots of walking only a few parts of the burn had mushrooms got enough for my winters feed.Price was $6,funny thing the people i met looked fire black i was looking forward to a shower.
Rover,I heard that people are still picking at Kelly Creek.Apparently each picker is getting between twenty and thirty pounds a day.I haven't been there myself,so I can only tell you what I've heard.I guess you'd have to check it out to be sure.Good luck.
whats happening with morels in the yukon and b .c anyone have any news.thanks
Garf,it depends.For instance, if a fire started out at 2500 feet, and ended at 6000 feet, it could produce for a couple of months.The low end would start first,and as the soil warms up the morels would slowly move up the mountain.By the time the bottom is over the top is just beginning.
how long does a fire generally produce for in the first year... say it started in late april ... just a general question and it probably varies a lot but what 4 or 5 months or longer??? anyone got a good quality log splitter for sale??? need to know right away... ger
Never asked before, If there are any praying type's out there. Please say a prayer for Sheila, she is not a picker, however she is a loving person that is in very critical condition. She is my sister! All prayers are Gods gift to Life!
LOL!!! It's OK!!!
the european lab test being bantied about on the board actually comes from a procedure that was perfected in amsterdam. its seems that food testing is a specialty of people after experiencing the "gange" and is a highly regarded art form if not actually "certifiable". I do not thumb my nose at you sir, yet I do thumb my nose.... ;P
You may only have a GED, TK, but you hit the nail on the head!
I've tried to articulate that for some time, only I have a GED here in the states and also the time has'nt been right! I'm 50 years old and have picked off and on, sometimes for money, but more often for pleasure, I've always said! United We Stand Together!
As far as contaminated (cheap rot-gut products go), there is another issue at hand besides contamination or destroying markets. Buyers should support their local markets, as it has been suggested in regard to organic agricultural products. Besides a question of why ship peaches for example from 12500 miles away (and pay the extra freight costs) there is the question of what you are doing as far as destroying local livlihoods and the disruptions your are creating in the ECONOMY OVERALL. Need I remind anyone that the balance of trade in Western economies has been negative and maybe saleable--and cheap--products are available at home a good deal of the time (HINT TO patriotic high-volume buyers if there are any). I recently was reading an agricultural magazine devoted to small/organic farming and saw the claim that firms like Monsanto are becoming the "Goldman Sachs" of agriculture. The implication is that politcal favoritism is supporting monopolistic behavior and driving the "little guy" into the ground. GLOBALISM seems to be the driving force behind a lot of these monopolies and it seems to be spreading across all sectors of the economy. The aim: take the "local" competition out. If you have a local product that is in demand you can set up a chair and watch the vultures converge.... In our field it's predating destructive, SUBSIDIZED crews; brief excessive prices followed by extreme low prices for entire seasons, and an anti-picker mentality. I commend the buyers whose posts I have read on this site who appreciate the problems of the pickers. In addition to hearing noises of "too many pickers" I have heard the big boys complaining of "too many buyers." The ultimate job security, I believe, might be in local support networks of pickers and buyers. This has been done in a loose sense, but short of a formal business cooperation--which is likely to create friction--perhaps groups could simply work together more frequently. The idea that mushroom pickers are unskilled labor is a myth that should be combatted. Wild mushrooms are not a "common" product and have excellent anti-cancer qualities, and picking a good and maintaining a good product is becoming an art.
I'm not very smart, certaintly not as smart as 2010, but some thing's seem to remain the same! I wish I could call bullshit, Bullshit! What do you say, JC?
Randy you and I talked together some years ago about diamond willow! Aye? Sure hope it's going good now! Marin! aka TK !
hey Marin 2010 does us a service... he/she gets us involved. I dont hold any bad will towards him/her. His/her position is not consistent with that of a picker... I would guess that he/she is a small time picker/broker in the US pnw. Dont really matter anyways as whats important is dialog helps us all understand real issues that helps us get data and facts. Same ole game.... get them talking and they will tell you what you need to hear. For example; if 2010 is here slugging it out then he/she is not busy picking.... that lets me know it may be worthwhile putting some effort into picking, because like 2010 I will not bother unless its worth it... and i dont work for cheap. (unless its for fun) In 2010 cheap imports hurts us all. Just to be clear... Im not trying to promote any sales at all... in fact most of my friends on here and in the field know I dont pick much at all anymore. I take on this issue because its just plain wrong.. I have no self interest in this regard.
I do remember going through a simialer issue some years ago with JC, and after enough slips of the the tongue, I decided JC was female, I didn't beleave her then, though she is very smart! I still don't beleave her now! Sorry JC, same ole, same ole! Good luck with the bullshi.!
Thank's Randy, JC has her handfull!
im not positive but I believe usda and cfia only will do a investigation if there is an a reported issue like food poisoning. Not positive but they do not do this very often, but they should, If a terrorist decided to (heaven forbid) put something on lets say a chanterelle shipment from China, it would be found out too late to protect the consumer. CBSA does visual inspections but again thats for bugs not contaminants. Its in everyone best interest to lobby for our own lab tests here in N America and imported product labeled as such. If you dont agree I got some farmed fish to sell you at wild fish prices....
To be fair: there are areas even here in Canada that would not pass a European lab test either. For example; morels collected around Yellowknife NWT probable would not pass as they would prob be contaminated with arsenic from road dust.. they use contaminated fill from the Giant mine to build roads there... Areas around industrial areas like Toronto/Vancouver would prob be high in lead from the days of leaded fuel, prob would not pass as well. Thats why Canadian pickers go to such lengths to harvest in pristine remote areas.... At huge cost. The Liard fire for example fuel was $1.87 a lt. No one wants to punish anybody but pickers deserve a fair share for quality product and chefs/consumers have the right to know they are getting a safe product. I believe there are new labeling laws in Canada that should address mixing.... in the end it will come down to; what chefs demand when they buy product and not what some brokers/ importers put on the table
I donít have time to respond in depth at the moment.. dealing with a 40' container of teak furniture that has arrived. In brief: France and Spain will impose a lab test on new or unknown shippers when mushrooms originate from certain parts of eastern Europe, China etc. but 2010 (or is that JC?) knows that. This is a double issue as imported product is sold here in Canada as a Canadian product. Iím sure its the same in the USA. It does not take a lot of brain power to see it donít add up. Product is sold here in N. America |(delivered) at less than they could get in Europe with out shipping or weight loss factored in. again 2010 reread my post and try a little harder to use better reading skills... No where did I say mushrooms from China had to pass European lab tests... I suggested they probably would not pass such a test, but as it now stands we donít know do we? Imported product should be labelled as imported not Canadian product.(I believe thats the law now ) Question: Mushrooms imported into Canada and then re distributed to the USA, Are they subject to usfda tests or do they bypass inspection and considered Canadian under nafta? I have never had usfda do a lab test on any product I have sent to the USA... other than a phyto sanitary for bugs.... much dif than French lab test that look for heavy metals etc. I donít accuse any specific person purposely using contaminated mushrooms(thats your words) but current practices allow for such a probability and quite probable. 2010 your quite a hard act to follow... you pick, import, export, market direct etc etc all by yourself..... WOW
Saw some mixed grays and conicas--grays looked OK but conicas sad--in large supermarket in Oregon. $20 per pound. Wondering where they came from.......much of the burns in Oregon are pretty dried up....any comment?
Seems to me we went through something like this afew years ago with a buyer for one of the Joe's, around the time go Garf's accident!
Greetings All, 2010, yep a much better response. I can see you are trying to get the facts straight. That's what this board is all about. I personally don't know much about testing import food products. However, I do remember news stories about contaminated mushrooms coming from several countries around the world. Some of this was discussed on the board previously. Later, Matsiman
It's complicated :)
Tinker what "european lab test" are you talking about? What lab? What test? What country? Basically from what I am reading is a broad allegation that Canadian companies are importing contaminated mushrooms that are endangering the public. Of course, this is an accusation that both you and kingmorel don't seem willing to substantiate other than this broad reference to some "european lab test" (this also doesn't address kingmorel's reference to China which would by extension by his posts imply that China products would have to be sent to Europe for this unnamed test). This concept, although intriguing, is entirely an excercise in illusion since imported products into the United States is subjected to United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) inspections (not European) and products imported into Canada are subject to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) (not European testing). My point of course being that although what the two of you are posting may sound really awesome and all that it is nothing more than an excercise in providing chefs false information. As a picker that sells to chefs myself I do think that promoting sales based upon false information is irresponsible.
2010,if mushrooms can't pass a european lab test it means they are not fit for human consumption.So why should canadian brokers be allowed to import these mushrooms and pass them off on unsuspecting chefs and consumers? Is that clear enough for you?
kingmorel you posted "Maybe you consider the mixing of cheap foreign product, that will not pass European lab tests, with Canadian product legitimate?" I posted "Why would a product being imported and sold in Canada need to pass a European lab test" Then you responded " I nvr said Canadian/American product should pass European lab tests." (which of course is not what I posted either). I hope this was nice enough matsiman.
2010,save your mumbo jumbo for someone else,I don't believe you.
Tinker my comment was me making fun of how you jump to conclusions.
2010,I didn't have the time this morning to finish saying what I wanted.As I said this morning,I pick because I love it.I quit picking seriously in 2004,but, just because I don't pick for a living anymore doesn't mean I don't care about the industry.I genuinely care about the pickers and field buyers.You made a slip of the tongue when you said "Having my opinion does not make me a slave owner for crying out loud"That comment confirms that you are not a picker,you are a buyer.
Went to the Prichard fire today,it's pretty much over.Took 7 hours to find approximately 30 pounds of blondes and greys.The re-gen as well as the rest of the fire is greening up quickly.The fire weed is so thick it's like a carpet.I did see some small stuff starting,but not very much.This was definitely my last day for the year. :-(
2010,I have re-thought how I pick.I do it just for the pure fun of it now.If you're happy with what you're getting paid,hooray for you!
Hey Andy. I think 2010 is just having a hard time putting into words what he is trying to say. .. anyways Im good... the mumbo jumbo does not bother me. Hope all is good with you, we need to spend some time to together soon and talk. Thx for keeping this site up... im amazed you have been able to do so.
2010, lighten up. King Morel, Randy, is one of the most reliable information sources on the board and has helped many over the past decade. Thanks, Matsiman
2010.. your effort to twist others comments is lame.... You come on to a public internet site and make broad derogative comments towards pickers, I suggest you work on your reading skills.... I nvr said Canadian/American product should pass European lab tests.... your right your mumbo jumbo is not worth further comment your agenda is showing once again.
Tinker never in my life of picking has anyone ever made me their slave. I pick because that is what I want to do. I sell my product to people who pay me want I want to get paid or I don't sell it. Never have done it anyother way and never will. If you cannot do the same thing then maybe you need to rethink of how you pick and sell? Having my opinion does not make me a slave owner for crying out loud.
kingmorel I cannot sort through your mumbo jumbo well enough to make a very informed response. Why would a product being imported and sold in Canada need to pass a European lab test (for just one example of your mumbo jumbo rant you went off on). I also am confused as to how you think you have hit my "sore point". It is not me on the internet whining about my life and the woe is me syndrome. I am picking and happy with what I do. If I get a good price I pick. If I don't get the price I want I don't. If there are things I need to buy to be able to get the price I want I do. If not, I don't. Very simple really. Maybe when you get your thoughts sorted out a little better I may respond to you again.
Anyone looking for a few lbs. of very nice dried Lobsters,.I have 30 lbs I want to get off my shelves before the new season starts. Email me if interested at email@example.com We will talk price then, Dwight in new Brunswick
Randy,thanks for your patience,if the whole world could get along it would be a great place,and yes I even remember Neil in his little pup tent out at the old reload and shootin the shit around Norms,Neil has to do what he has to do,just like myself,I apologise to anyone whos feelings I may have hurt here and promise to choose my words more carefully,Alvo of the woods
KM,if I found out that I had purchased or consumed mushrooms from an unsafe site,I would be livid.To think that someone could put money before the public's heath is unconscionable.
Tinker.. yes I ask... some say some dont... most are pissed when they find out the truth. I amagine they worry about how this information would hurt thier business if thier customers find out, besides the fact, they got a cheap deal it is still expensive product.... wouldnt you be pissed if you thought you were buying quality product and then find out you were mislead... educate those chefs near you....
Alvo... I have known Neal for over 20 yrs.. I have always been on friendly terms with him since I helped save his Ex from the Terrace rapists in the old Cranberry.. I enjoyed banging the rapists head off my bumper.. I enjoyed making sure thier vehical was disabled so they could not escape the police.... he has always treated me with respect as far as I know. Yes there is often goofy posts... for the most part those are from frustrations born of the situation pickers find themselves in... there are also goofy posts from buyers and brokers that are born from thier will to serve thier agendas'. To be a field buyer nowadays must be very hard.. to be a field manager must be even harder.. most of them would love to be paying pickers a FAIR cut.. but they want to make a living as well but they have to do what the brokers tell them to do. You have to be frustrated ... just like most pickers (those that pick for the $$$) Nowadays I just pick for the fun.. I have shed my frustrations in that regard..my frustration now is solely from the mixing of cheap junk foreign products mixed with our quality N. american products... and not labeled as such. just to be clear my post was not negative towards you.
has anyone seen mikenmatt lately. if so, where
randy,i have no frustration,i got 5.oo for most of my mushrooms and had a fairly good season,why does neil have your respect,what has he ever done that makes him stand out,i only speak according to the facts that are out there,if people are hurt by opinions,that is their frustration not mine, sometimes the posts are so goofy or mundane that ya just wanna set the record straight , BJT ,there is a buyer at clinton,another in chase another in kelowna,phone ponderosa if you need more info
Kingmorel,did you ask the chefs who they're purchasing the morels from?They must know.Personally,I would never eat a morel that wasn't picked by my own hands.
Any buyers still open in bc? Greys really coming on now.
Carla... I feel for ya... its hard for the field buyers as well as the pickers. You have always been upfront and as fair as you can. As far as Misty Mountain goes.. Dave has always been fair with me. Neal has my respect. I cant speak for Alvo as I have not been there with him during his times of frustration. Something to think about; even when we have seen morel field prices over $10/lb. some pickers were still complaining.. I guess when someone hurts you its hard to let it go.
Pickers.... "Whoever is trying to bring you down is already below you" Know that to get someone like 2010 to respond as he has means "we have hit a sore point" very interesting IMO. Educate those chefs to buy N. American only product. Lobby your MP for imported product to be subject to lab tests. You pickers have the product in Your hands before the brokers... full buckets
2010.... thats a lame atemp at a smoke screen. In fact little has really changed... pickers pick and buyers buy. What has changed is pickers rarely get a fair share of the rewards of what they pick. If pickers were paid a fair share they would be able to buy ins. (about 2k) as far as registered business records. thats just words... most pickers now report thier picking earnings as their expenses often more than thier wages so its in thier favour to do so. In fact if pickers went to the labour board they would be awarded min. wage which often would be more than they now make. How many pickers go out and scout, pick early crop for nothing? My records as would most pickers here in 2010 be open to inspection to REV Canada... not sure where your from but in Canada thats the law. Not sure what you consider a legitimate food sales business but that is what pickers are doing. Maybe you consider the mixing of cheap foreign product, that will not pass European lab tests, with Canadian product legitimate? What you post suggests, is like saying farmers are not legit food sales business. Your obvious disrespect to pickers is very much 2010 but change always comes and you sir will one day be a thing of the past... unless you are willing to go pick your own mushrooms... good luck with that.
Your right Carla,the vast majority would have to be on board before it would work,and we both know that's not going to happen.I was simply pointing out that there is a solution to the problem.Just wishful thinking I guess.2010,you're right,this is 2010,and slave labor should be a thing of the past!Sorry,but I have no respect for someone who makes thier money by screwing others!Perhaps you're one of them?No wonder some pickers try to pass off thier garbage mushrooms.In my opinion that's all the brokers deserve!
There may be a few pickers that would appreciate the idea of closing til prices get better but the vast majority just get mad that u r not open... :-( Been there tried that!
Every year the same ole same ole is bantered about. This is 2010 and things have changed. This idea that pickers should get paid more for quality is nonsense. There shouldn't be anything but quality products bought and sold anyway. And as far as direct marketing to chefs: where are the posts about such details as product liability insurance, registered business records and running a legitimate food sales business? Pickers need to start realizing that we are self employed people in the food industry and stop thinking that mushroom buyers exist to provide us a service. They don't. They are running businesses and until pickers decide that we are going to run legitimate businesses ourselves then the same ole same ole will never end.
Alvo.....Sorry didnt mean to insult you..i have been in the business since 1979 so i know alot of history and clients. And since being in the industry for so long kinda do know what i am talking about. And for your information i am NOT a Shirley follower or picker..I have never sold her a mushroom in my life, and never will. The reason that i stick up for misty is cause they have never done me wrong and usually pay me more for my product due to quality.
Tinker makes a good point... there is alot pickers can do to help. Market as much as you can direct to chefs. Educate all chefs you talk to about field prices, drying ratios, and informing them that if they are buying below those costs they cant be buying Canadian/USA product. Inform them of the mixing of polluted foreign product with quality N American product by importers. Many of you may not realize just how big and how important the N American markets are. There are many companies that nvr export and deal just in the n american markets... some mix some dont but all are effected by end market prices being driven down by mixing in cheap imports. Most chefs do care about the quality they serve thier customers... its up to us to educate them.
Anyone buying morels at $3.50 a lb should easily triple their money after drying and selling. The value of dried north american morels never falls low enough to justify $3.50 per lb fresh. However companies may not have enough cash on hand to pay a fair price for the entire season... and why should they pass on a chance to get rich at your expense?
Carla,I have been on both sides of the table,and I completely understand what you are saying.People need to vent thier anger at the big guys.They're the one's that are getting rich at the expence of the field buyers and pickers.Many years ago when the price dropped too low the buyers would shut the doors,and the pickers would hold thier mushrooms until the price went up.This tactic seemed to work well.Just a couple of days of them not recieving the desired product was enough for them to boost the price.The pickers and buyers have complete control...they just don't seem to know that.No pickers or buyers,means no product! The field buyers and pickers should be playing the divide and conquer game against the big boys instead of each other.
carla.i would not trash talk you or anyone else, I only state my opinion,everyone knows by now that the whole mushroom industry in canada and the u.s is a scam,come on eh,there is barely any money left to be made by the picker,for a number of years now,no matter where or what you pick,it is hard to feel positive towards a bad energy thing,sorry if i am a meany,i CANT HELP IT WHEN I SEE SOME OF THE GOOFY POSTS ON HERE
1rst time poster here....but just had to say carla that is great explanation u are the shit(meaning good) and k morel u are the man--great link
When one buyer is under all the others in price that usually means the company he/she works for is "loaded up". The only thing we can do at that point is sit there and get griped at all day long....Making no money because very few people will sell to you out of convenience and miss that extra cash.... So not only do we make no cash that day but we also get an earful from almost everyone who walks in and or calls....And if we are really lucky some pickers get on the internet and trash you there too ;-)
just another picker, correct about the quality,and for fresh market,incorrect about our quality,we leave all second grade morels in the bush,every thing we pick is clean and clipped,my problem with dave has nothing to do with quality,when bill was buying in sorrento at 3.50 neil was there with the fresh paks,all the good stuff was packed fresh,dont forget there is also a decent north american fresh market,dave is a cheapskate,period,we have not sold a mushroom to misty in ten years,sice matsi in the nass,you are probably one of shirleys followers if you love misty so much,and the price in canada has not been 3.50 for a long time now,i know cause i been there each and every season for over a decade,4.00 is the dryer price this year like a lot of years,you dont know what you are talking about obviously.
India and China mushrooms are crap compared to ours. For the most part USA and Canadian mushrooms are harvested in Pristine areas with the mushrooms not full of heavy metals and polution. Lobby your MP for implimentation of lab tests on all imports. Mixing of N american product with cheap crap imported from China and E Europe should be stopped. YOU CHEFS OUT THERE READING THIS make sure you ask the source of the product you are buying. If your supplier lies to you then you have recourse. LOL LOL what you are suggesting is like trying to compare wild fish to farmed fish. Canadian product is top of the line.... if what you buy is crap thats your buyers fault not the pickers.. just dont buy crap...
Where's Bob Coburn? Please ask him to check in....thks
cmon north american pickers, remember you compete globally with india and china....ya think they make 5 bucks a pound? to get better pricing ya HAVE to do your own marketing. dont blame the guys wagging thier money in your face for the prices, they will always pay as little as possible.....THATS BUSINESS. cheers and full buckets
so i missed out on matsi permit underbiding , any one having a open for a helper???? if not maybe ill have too give tours,.!
Alvo... The reason for the low prices is crappy mushrooms and for years the price for mushrooms were $3.50..I think greed for higher prices in the past was due to high fresh market demand..and pickers were able to pay expenses on the price of 3.50..And if you had dealings with misty u would know that they are good people.and if you had issues it is most likely your product that wasent to their standards
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Alvo,I sold a fair amount to Bill and Trudy,and I was always paid between $4.00 and $5.oo a pound,never less.There may have been a day or two when they were paying 3.50 to the pickers that were bringing in wet,ugly mushrooms.The pickers that were paid for these mushrooms can count themselves lucky,I wouldn't have paid a dime for them.As far as the low prices go,it's the same old story,GREED!Unless all the pickers and buyers take a united stand against these greedy criminals,the prices will continue to be low.I don't care if it's Misty,Chung or salvo,they're all the same.They only care about thier own bottom line.
point well taken carla,but here in B.C the price was 4 4.50 and 5.00 only one buyer paid 3.50 besides I already have had dealings with Dave ,the owner of Misty Mountain and he is a cold ,hardball cheapskate,the buyer does not have to be part of the rip off if they dont want to,what is the reason for low prices this year for example,also prices for everything from a hamburger to a pack of smokes to a litre of oil is somewhat more expensive up here than stateside,not to mention about 13 per cent tax here in B.C ,pickers could not even make expenses at 4.00 in a lot of places in B.C this year
Damned!!! . brooks , streams are bone dry , even rivers are running dry, shit guys please even a pissing on this direction would help ,because we are tinder , flaming spark ready dry and ready for a big conflagration, things are just miserable and apparently NOT relief on sight, myself, I have a shit load of sprinklers on, but mostly I'm indoors with the ac.,man I needs me a fix of picking.
Randy,your photos are nothing short of spectacular!! Some day...... :-) As far as mushroom prices go,I think we're fighting a losing battle.It's not just other countrys screwing the price up,it's also because there's to many pickers willing to pick for peanuts.I'm afraid the good years are gone for good. :-(
srry forgot to add the url .... http://www.myspace.com/kingmorel
If you want to see morel prices go up lobby the goverment to have imported mushrooms have to pass a lab test, and have imports marked as "imported foreign product" I talk to chefs here in Toronto that pay $50/lb. dried. When I tell them that there is no way thats Canadian or USA product they get pissed. When you know it takes aprox. 10:1 to dry, remove low grade uglies, ship,pack, etc. there is no way North American product is that cheap.To mix foreign junk with quality North American product is just wrong.. to tell chefs that they are buying Canadian product when that product is imported should be ellegal. Same goes for fresh Chanterelles. Posted a new blog on my myspace call "Canada" Toronto to Liard hotsprings BC.... very low key pick for me, but my intention was to just have fun. Best to all pickers. Randy
The company I work for doesn't export Matsi so if there are any brokers looking for the overflow from Coos County Oregon, feel free to hit me up. 541-269-2309
Wow my first donation was in 2007 and I think I started posting here in 2003 wow time flies.
Hey all. Dry as hell here on the east coast of da usa. Went out to have a look yesterday and all I ran into was ground dry bug eaten mushrooms. Well i guess thats what you get if you run 90's for a week or so and no rain. Need rain bad garden is dry as a bone. Soon the chanties and black trumpets will be crying out for rain. Rain dance please from someone. Duncan in da burgh!
Hi alvo. I am not sure where you are but here in Oregon it was 3.50 also. And lets not forget that the buyer never chooses his own price.... As a buyer I know that no matter what I pay the picker, I still make 50 cents a pound and the more I pay the pickers the happier they are... So truth be told we love to pay high!
Hey there mushie folk,!! damned , it's been quite a spell since it rained here, it's dry, nothing is coming out and by that I mean not a bloody thing, I had to drill a new deep water well because even the mushroom farm is on the pits, dry , dry, dry. well enough of my misery , how is it looking on your side and is there any color at all yet ?, usually by this time of the year I'm up to my gills on chanties, however even cactus could have a hard time in this 90 degrees dry weather, be well all and I'll see you on the rebound.
Bill and Trudy,the only buyers who paid 3.50 this year,but then again Neil must get 50 cents a pound for sitting on his ass being field manager,Bill and trudy and misty mountain are not well respected in my circle of picker friends
Bill and Trudy have always been solid and helpful ever since I met them in Kitwanga years ago. Always good coffee and snacks, a helpful mushroom story, advice and a patch or two. Bill even vouched for me once the RCMP was tracking me down. Good luck out there pickers and stay out of my patch! hahaha
Like to hear when people in the shroom "family" help each other out. I find that the nicest people are those who have experienced tough times. A helping hand should be appreciated, even in a post!
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I found some morl's today, enough to brag about! Well, almost, so I won't!!!