User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday April 01, 2015
Time: 03:50 AM
Morning All, I got a message from the REAL ORIGINAL YUKON GIRL. She's upset somebody posted under her name. She came to this sight back in the fall of 2013 looking for Butch & Shirley. I do remember her and am sure she didn't make the posts in the last discussion. We got trolls with a different style of trolling.
I know people have asked for a registered board but, wouldn't help. Email addresses are the primary means of ID and anyone can get as many email addresses as they want. I'll work on ID of the fake Yukon Girl. ID is possible but doubtful. All I can do is tighten up on inappropriate posts and think of a way of making the boards more secure from these types of people. Sorry folks.
Matsiman
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday March 31, 2015
Time: 09:35 AM
CHEMAINUS!, The first link is to USFS by state, the second is to a fire page on one of the 2 in Alaska National forests. Didn't check it out fully but appears to be a link to fire info from last year. http://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/map/state_list.shtml#Oregon
Matsiman
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday March 31, 2015
Time: 09:19 AM
CHEMAINUS!, Don't do fire searches anymore. The only suggestion I have is to check USFS site in Alaska. Also, there might be an add on Buy or Sell Mushroom page. If there is an add, ask them where to find a site with fire info. The link is directly to the right. If I have time, I'll check later tonight. Good luck, Matsiman
User_Name: CHEMAINUS!
Date: Tuesday March 31, 2015
Time: 08:51 AM
Holy smokes, folks, I couldn't even read through March. No one has answered the price question. What is a pound of morels out of the bush worth right now? Is there a 2014 fire map for Alaska? Link please don't just tell me to go look. I have. The suggested Siberia search is a loop. Brings you right back to this article. Matsiman's got some decent search optimization :] cheers and buckets -J
User_Name: Austin
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 11:38 PM
Interesting article - Not very accurate. Prices will be much lower this year. Let them think that they have the only fires in Western Canada http://www.myyellowknifenow.com/2875/morel-guidance-make-money-nwt-mushrooms/
User_Name: RW
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 09:31 PM
Can we get some prices from the early birds, just for a hoot ?
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 08:24 PM
I love it.. great post... thank you conicalifornia
User_Name: conicalifornia
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 08:06 PM
Hello all, North Pacific water vapor levels are looking rather juicy for beginning of april and it appears the rain train is about to begin. Many records could be broken precipitation wise along the west coast this April and May, the main culprit is mjo or madden joulian oscillation (huge amounts of warm moist air rising in the equatorial tropical latitudes and forming into large moisture rich clouds that propagate northward and are then entrained into the low pressures moving westward/westerlies in the northern hemisphere). The mjo usually has a 30-60 day cycle when active and (producing large cumulonimbus clouds) or not active, but interestingly it went active in mid march and then 14 days laters is going extremely active again. I just read that the 1982- 83 el nino was largely triggered by a kelvin wave that a strong mjo event created during late May 1982! The signs are beginning to point toward an el nino next year and might be a strong one? The oceanic sst's that have been above normal along the west coast since last spring are going to support increased rain also. It very well could be a mushroom summer like we havent seen in a while and one for the memories! Nevertheless, the mjo event ocurring right now has triggered a rather intense typhoon (last i heard winds were around 110mph) and is around guam and heading northwest. In the next couple days it is going to become entrained in the westerlies and strengthen the lows moving westward and could very well bring humongous rains to somewhere between central california and northern oregon about a week out. I have seen patterns like this shape up and bring 20 inches of rain in 24 hours to certain mountain ranges if wind direction and the low circulates in the right area. However i have never seen this happen in late march/early april only in september and october. Im hypothesizing the california/southern oregon drought could be easing soon and wet weather might persist into next fall and winter in oregon and northern california and hopefully our weather patterns can become a bit more normal for a little while, and us mushroom pickers can live our normal lives again. Cheers to our wild atmosphere and its amazing impacts on all of our lives!!
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 05:54 PM
ntmorels; I see it on the maps, it will produce for sure, I picked around of a lot of big jack pine trees with canopy. And having the reburn is awesome for easy access. Everyone here talks about morels season and say they are ready to go.
User_Name: get real
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 05:36 PM
Reburn doesn't produce much, if any morels. The host tree needs to be alive.
User_Name: ntmorels
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 04:53 PM
YukonGirl, Along Highway 5 from the park boundary to Nyarling Tessi, about 60 kms the park fought the fire with bucketing to keep it back from the road so it was suppressed from crowning....burnt on the ground, fingering along the highway access that I can see. I did not fly over this one. From Nyarling Tessi, underground river, it burned in mixed old jackpine stands and also in an area that had previously burned..five years ago. That part the fire got REALLY hot, some of it got really scorched but also there is a lot of big pine forest for the blondes and greys that looks pretty promising. From Nyarling river it goes about 30 more kms. Its a big burn.
User_Name: Oregon picker
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 03:00 PM
Is anyone down souther oregon northern Cali making any money yet I'm a long time picker who had a bad year last year with it being my first morel season and went bust and had to pack up early but loved the camping and picking aspect just want to know if it's worth my time to head down yet
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 01:54 PM
The only way to find out is to go hunt them for yourself, everyone else does. Its not hard just go to google earth or contact the forestry in BC for the 2014 fire season maps.
User_Name: NEWBY
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 01:40 PM
Hello all! Great communication and spreading of knowledge here on this board. I was hoping someone could inform me further on the morel season. Im aware BC burn sites are best and spring summer are best times to be picking. Can anyone perhaps send me some info on a good spot that is currently providing mushrooms and has potential for june july. Id ideally like to be set up somewhere where there is a buying station and close to some form of civilisation for food restock etc. Cheers Jack
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 01:29 PM
ntmorels, is there a lot of canopy? Meaning deep burns and the trees have green tops. If so then we are talking & seeing $$$ $igns.
User_Name: ntmorels
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 01:17 PM
Its right adjacent to the SANDY LAKE burn of, I recall, 2010 and that was one of the most productive burns we have ever had here-its all small pothole lakes, pine and spruce. A lot of brown needles left on the trees, just falling now. Kingmorel should know that area.
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 12:49 PM
ntmorels, thank you for the info, I will let others know this. Especially the KASKA PEOPLE they love to pick mushrooms, some of them are high ballers one can make up $2000.00 a day. One guy is 60 years old and he filled 18 buckets a day he's amazing.
User_Name: ntmorels
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 12:18 PM
Great, YukonGirl. If you fill up at Jakes Corner and bring 6 Jerry Cans you can make it to here without having to pay huge gas prices and there is a first nations gas bar here where you can fill up for Edmonton prices. Round trip from Whitehorse was 450.00 last summer when the prices were high and food is expensive here so you should stock up in WH.
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 11:51 AM
ntmorels, thank you very much for the invitation, and for catching up on my posts. And yes I will come to your neck of the woods and pick. I thanked mother earth for no fires in Yukon last year. This year will be very hot with little rain, we didn't get much snow this winter now its melting too fast.
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 11:46 AM
OK, it's evident this discussion has no resolution on these message boards, so lets agree we disagree and move on. I'm tiered of constant monitoring of a situation I know nothing about. Exchange email addresses and take it there. Please stop or the delete button will work overtime. Thanks for your cooperation. Matsiman
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 11:33 AM
you talk of socio economic agreements with the Diamond mines... lmao Have you tried the same with west coast interests with mushrooms? Do these west coast interests not buy locals mushrooms without predudice? I have held seminars in YK trying to get locals out to pick... they were not really interested. I think you are just using the first nations as a tool to fill your own personal interests.... How will this protectionism help the Kaska Dene? explain that?
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 11:24 AM
you talk with forked tongue. You assume west coast concerns will send buyers north. Why would they bother? Lots and lots of fires in BC where its closer to market shipping, cheaper to operate. You will get a few buyers but the price you see will be much lower and you are the reason.... hope your proud of yourself... its like taking money right out of your own locals pockets. Rape and pillage has never happened there unless you are referring to what the Giant mine...which has nothing to do with mushroomers...
User_Name: ntmorels
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 11:02 AM
Actually Kingmorels, we do have socio economic agreements with the Diamond mines guaranteeing levels of northern and aboriginal northern employment and the mines also train northern employees and enter into preferred purchasing contracts with First Nations and First Nations businesses for their much of their supply needs. As for Morels, and particularly this year- the benefits of the harvest will go to the West Coast concerns who send their buyers north. With a huge labour force (free labour) who will pick for whatever the buyers offer and a plentitude of shrooms, the price can only drop. You should read Grapes of Wrath...in it you will find a great description of how free market labour contracting works in a situation that is quite analogous to what is happening north of 60 in the mushroom patch. As for the rest of it....who cares if you don't like it, its our land and we know all about the rape and pillage mode you guys inevitably bring with you.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 10:45 AM
ntmorels.... you have it so wrong. morels are a agriforest product not a forest product. Tell me all the diamond mining going on is by NWT residents only.... You will kill the industry there and will see the prices plunge there... way to go, way to serve your own interests. This kind of protectionism serves only you... hope you have broad shoulders. You will have a lot of pickers very mad at you soon enough.... so sad.
User_Name: ntmorels
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 10:05 AM
Yukon Girl I'm really sorry to have missed all the discussion that your posts started. I was in the bush and out of communications range. My profile is pretty much the same as yours only I live in the NWT and I am a guy. And I agree with most of what you say, am a big proponent of closing our Territory to non NWT residents-the way we do with ALL other forest products. And we are working on it and it is almost in our hands, I think. But it is a local issue and you should be working on this locally-I know for sure that a lot of other Yukon people, not just First Nations people don't like the current situation. But, you know, a lot of people can be bought off so it might take some time. Meanwhile, if you have a treaty card or Metis ID why don't you come over and pick in Wood Buffalo? There is a huge burn along Highway 5 between Hay River and Ft. Smith and it looks like it will be really productive...lots of watercourses, small lakes, good ground. AND since only First Nations can harvest there you won't have to put up too much. Hope to see you there.
User_Name: WCWF
Date: Monday March 30, 2015
Time: 06:29 AM
Hi all, We just wanted to clarify to everyone that the Austin who is posting on this site is not Austin Glenn from West Coast Wild Foods. Austin does not take part in online forums. Thanks, West Coast Wild Foods
User_Name: Adam
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 06:04 PM
Hi all! I'm in the South sound area of Washington state and am hoping to start buying a few morels here. I operate a mushroom stand at several farmers markets and would love to have the opportunity to bring some morels out! First markets starting this weekend! Willing to drive to you if you have some quantity. Will be buying through the season. Please get in touch if you'd be willing to work with me... Thank you, adamsmushrooms@gmail.com
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 12:24 PM
User_Name: Mad Morel
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 10:45 AM
User_Name: Mad Morel Date: Saturday, March 28, 2015 Time: 10:43:54 AM Messages I have reports from some that Morels are starting at 1800' feet on the eastern sloops of the cascades from Ellensburg south to Goldendale. Early Bird season has come and it has a good start. If this keeps up I just may start early picking Yellow Chanterelles by the first of June the earliest ever for around here, fathers day is the earliest I have found them on the Eastern sloops of the cascade of Washington state last year I found them on July 7th and I believe they started at lest 10 day before I found them. Go to "YouTube type in August Steinborn sr" and check out my Video's are on face book Outdoors with August Steinborn sr......Randy I hope to see you on your way back to Wa Wa lol.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 09:31 AM
Andy Its all good by me... I don't want to be the cause of more work for you... thx for all you do supplying this board
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 08:54 AM
kingmorel, Thanks for the suggestion. I already thought of just that. However, it will make more unnecessary work for me to transfer messages and more monitoring. I spend 2 to 4 hours a day monitoring already. Matsiman
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 08:49 AM
see mad morel board
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 08:46 AM
Hi Andy... maybe you could C&P the exchange over to that board? Sry but I just had to respond as some people with self interests often ruin a good thing... just not right.
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 08:26 AM
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 08:18 AM
Ive been on this site since Andy started it... Ive done more than my share of criticising of these companies when they have taken advantage and paid low prices... and paid a price for doing so.... but last yr in the Yukon they were more than fair with record high prices for morels in Canada. Thx to buyers like Austin and Jeremy and yes even Joe ... ;) we seen those opportunities.... and I thank them.... thx guys. You helped many.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 08:05 AM
Yukon Girl... the Yukon was built by companies from outside the Yukon... the Yukon would fail and be plunged back 100 yrs if those companies decided to not do business in the Yukon now. Whitehorse would become a ghost town.. that simple enough for you? You would not even no what a morel is if Sean and others like me had not come to the Yukon in the late 80's chasing them....Question are you really a Yukoner? Im thinking you are really from the NWT
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 07:58 AM
Yukon Girl maybe contact Sean Ryan, I believe he is a local by know. Think he has plans to invest in morels again. You must have some appreciation for the very mushroom companies that pumped over half mil a day into the Yukon last morel season??? Many locals around Carmacks last year were front and center, where many rookies made over 500/day. Local stores, fast food, gas station all had record sales. Shippers, propane suppliers, expediters' in Whitehorse just love the money these companies put out. The float plane, helicopters also were busy which was a good thing as it was a slow fire yr. Im surprised by your attitude being a Yukoner... I would expect that from an NWT'r as they have spouted that ill conceived poorly thought out rhetoric in the past. These mushroom companies will get nothing but support from me when they pay such fair prices.. they deserve it.
User_Name: Lilly2005
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 04:24 AM
Theycallmenobody, I will email you on Monday, I found 5 morels as I check on the new burn but it was kind of late yesterday, so I'm heading back up there again this morning and I will spend Saturday and Sunday hunting. My phone get no reception in the mountain.
User_Name: Peter
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 02:55 AM
Therefore we all should be happy, that we can pick and sell at good morel prices. I dont really care if it is BC company or from wherever. The key is, that it is good for our economy.
User_Name: Peter
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 02:49 AM
Yukon Girl, company with BC residency ( meaning office, warehouse, workers etc) that is federaly incorporated can perform any business activities in any province or territory. This company will pay federal and provincial income tax. Those are the facts, thats how it works in Canada. Other fact is that under Yukon territory corporation act, there is no residency requirement for owners of the company (owner can be from Mongolia). And again i am saying this on this forum, because i dont like to react in emotions, rather then facts. Understand that Canadian and USA have hard time competing with countries like China, Bulgaria, Poland, Russia. Pickers there dont make 500$ a day, more like 30$ a month. Now i will say something about your LOCAL BUYER. It is hard to believe, that in territory with 23 000 people, you can sucessfully start company that will buy mushrooms. First of all you need tons of money to start and second no investor will in business that
User_Name: Peter
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 01:36 AM
Not true. Google Federal incorporation in Canada. Google Crown land. Easy to understand. Simple economics.
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Saturday March 28, 2015
Time: 01:16 AM
Peter; A buyer who owns a business from Yukon & NWT, and must be a resident from either Territory. Is that simple enough for you to understand?
User_Name: Peter
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 11:08 PM
Any company doing business in Canada is closely watched by CRA, specialy if you export mushrooms outside of Canada. On other hand, Canada has one of lowest corporate tax in the world. Thats why Canada is in G7 and our citizens are well educated.
User_Name: Peter
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 10:56 PM
Yukon Girl, i am not a buyer but a picker. And sorry you dont get it. Who prohibits local buyers to buy. It sounds like that you are unhappy about the companies from Vancouver. "The thieves". Please dont forget that Yukon is in Canada. I dont really understand the term Local Buyer...please explaine. Anybody in Yukon can start a company, even you Yukon Girl....why nobody does it? Mushrooms that grow in Yukon and NWT are canadian mushroom. And canadian companies have right to buy them. Companies pay taxes, give jobs to people and i dont see the owners of this companies driving Ferrari.
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 10:37 PM
Austin & Peter; I do get it, WHY are you & other buyers dodging the auditors? Because you make well over 1 hundred thousand dollars in 1 week right? We want that for local buyers here too. A lot of people really want to see changes in Yukon & NWT for morel mushroom buying, they want local buyers only. That's the reason why I said rules & regulations are best suited for this mushroom business up here. And I say everyone is welcome to pick on Canadian grounds until the Government say it is not okay. "Work Visa or Not" Plain and simple if you don't want to pay taxes to the CRA for buying mushrooms, then just leave the pickers alone. You don't own this industry.
User_Name: TheyCallMeNobody
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 06:47 PM
Lilly2005 email me about putting together a crew. billy_badass9@hotmail.com
User_Name: get real
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 06:45 PM
didn't think that post was that bad matsiman?
User_Name: lilly2005
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 04:34 PM
i was at yosemite today, i went to the old burn and walked for about 30mins. i found nothing yet.
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 03:41 PM
Stan, please email me at matsiman@matsiman.com. Matsiman
User_Name: Mushroom_Viper
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 02:09 PM
Thinking of hitting Yosemite this or next weekend to check things out. I'm in Santa Cruz County. Anyone interested? mushroom.viper@gmail.com
User_Name: Keith Stone
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 06:16 AM
Im picking in northern Californian AND NEED A BUYER FOR MY MORELS!! ANYBODY?
User_Name: TheyCallMeNobody
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 06:08 AM
I am looking for a crew to join picking morels in the Western US and Alaska. I am an American and I will be picking my own mushrooms in the midwest for the next few months but I really want to learn how to find and pick the wildfire burns out west and travel and pick. I have hiked and camped in the mountains of Colorado and Oregon for years and I hike many miles a week currently. It seems like you have to know somebody to get into this and unfortunately I don't know anyone, yet. If you are on a crew I can join or you are an experienced picker and would like some help, then email me and we can exchange contact info. Thanks billy_badass9@hotmail.com
User_Name: lilly2005
Date: Friday March 27, 2015
Time: 12:55 AM
hi, theycallmenobody, i would like to be in your team. how do i contact you?
User_Name: ol' gulch
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 09:33 PM
I feel this is a valuable contribution to the subject https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFEKnmlyCS0 ;)
User_Name: Stan
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 09:05 PM
the cries and pleas of too many taxes and too much regulation are another sweet thing. there wouldn't be a tree left standing or a river with a single fish in it if it weren't for regulations. Imagine no building codes, nor food and drug laws. Ya third world America/Africa/South America is right. Impoverished Shanty towns and exclusive gated communities is a model made for us....
User_Name: Stan
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 08:59 PM
Ya um all companies have overhead and all companies either pay workmens comp unemployment ssi etc or they don't. I always get a kick out of those who claim govt cant do anything right crowd. Fact is at one time the govt worked just fine until one bunch of the govt itself set out to prove they couldn't do anything tight. lol.
User_Name: Austin
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 08:13 PM
Most mushroom companies have very large overhead. Big warehouses with huge walk-in coolers and big rent to go with that, trucks, office staff, packing staff, packaging, insurance, spoilage, etc,etc. It is a boom and bust business with most having to have other items to sell to operate year round. It is not easy to be a wild mushroom company. Most pickers only see a costco tent and a buyer handing out thousands of dollars and maybe a small dryer or cooler. That is only a small part of the overall business. Many wild mushroom companies have come and gone.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 08:10 PM
very well said Peter and Austin. If the govts decided to regulate us in Canada then they would have to give us the same consideration as forestry in regards to resource protection. If it aint broke don't try to fix it.... All the pickers and buyers I know declare their income.... makes no sense not to as it costs them nothing after deducting expenses. What I love about this system is exporters actually have to pay for the resource, that belongs to Canadian citizens, to the pickers and as Peter pointed out most of that money is spent in small communities and that helps then a lot. Govt needs to fix its other messes before messing up this industry in Canada.
User_Name: Stan the man
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 06:31 PM
Your forgetting a few things there sport - its a tidy and convenient arangement for the companies too. No workmens comp. No unemployment. In fact no responsibility at all. Money just walks in the door!
User_Name: Austin
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 04:30 PM
Yukon Girl, you just don't get it. Mushroom pickers are independent from the buyers. They can sell to different buyers whenever they want. They have their own vehicles, buy their own gas, own their own knives and buckets and take a risk that they will sell more mushrooms than it costs to get them. Some pickers do well and some loose money after they pay their expenses. I can't ever see mushroom pickers becoming employees of the buying companies. Sometimes buyers organize fly in picking but it gets paid for by the pickers when they cash-out. As Peter pointed out to you, most pickers would not pay any income tax on their sales after deducting all of their expenses and depreciation on vehicles and equipment. It would only create a bureaucracy that would hinder people from going out for a day, week or month to pick in the outdoors away from the Rat Race of todays modern society. Young people exposed to mushroom picking at an early age are more likely to be rounded than round.
User_Name: TheyCallMeNobody
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 01:30 PM
Email me: billy_badass9@hotmail.com
User_Name: death_man
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 11:58 AM
Hi TheyCallMeNobody, is there any way to contact you? Sorry, I'm new here. Did some picking, getting ready for this season, ready to go everywhere(Canada, Alaska after States... )
User_Name: TheyCallMeNobody
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 10:49 AM
I am looking for a crew to join picking morels in the Western US and Alaska. I am an American and I will be picking my own mushrooms in the midwest for the next few months but I really want to learn how to find and pick the wildfire burns out west and travel and pick. I have hiked and camped in the mountains of Colorado and Oregon for years and I hike many mile a week currently. It seems like you have to know somebody to get into this and unfortunately I don't know anyone, yet.
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Thursday March 26, 2015
Time: 09:54 AM
Peter; If we can pay taxes to go fight fires for 2 to 3 weeks, then why not do the same for mushroom picking? I know how the system works I work in the financial world, the buyers just don't want to pay into this revenue. Maybe they should get audit and the Government will decide from that. I feel this is fair for everyone.
User_Name: Peter
Date: Wednesday March 25, 2015
Time: 10:14 PM
Yukon Girl, T4 is for employers when they pay their emloyees. But mushroom pickers dont work for the companies, they are more self-employed. Like i said earlier, to declare taxes, there is already enough ways to do it. Besides, if you would look at it closely,most mushroom pickers would pay zero taxes anyways, because all they would deduct in whole year would be more then they would earn :)
User_Name: Peter
Date: Wednesday March 25, 2015
Time: 09:53 PM
Augustin, well said. The income from mushroom business is very good for Canada, as 80% money comes from European buyers. Most of this money goes through canadian companies into small comunities in Canada. And the money saver by pickers is also mostly spend in Canada. Yet there is one more funny part about this. Nobody is stoping the pickers to pay taxes from this :) You can declare, the government wont stop you from going it. But mushroom picking is not a regular job, mostly part time so you cannot really depend on it.
User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Wednesday March 25, 2015
Time: 04:19 PM
Austin; I believe the pickers should also pay taxes too, I would like to get T4 Slips for rebates, simply because its a job picking mushrooms. And this will work for everyone who comes to Canada to pick mushrooms, "First they must have work visa" To my understanding about this business, is that all the mushrooms gets exported all over the world for big bucks. Don't forget that money puts bread & butter on our tables, and money in our banks. So stop complaining about people coming here to pick, you make good money doing this.
User_Name: Austin
Date: Wednesday March 25, 2015
Time: 03:40 PM
Yukon Girl, Mushroom buyers in Canada do pay taxes. It's called income tax. Some of us pay Corporate tax and personal tax. I think everyone who picks and buys mushrooms pays their share of road fuel tax. Having a permit system like the US would be bad for northern Canada. The government WANTS people to go north. Some will actually move there. As long as people keep their camps clean and respect nature then there is no need to change anything here in Canada. The Wild mushroom industry is good for the Canadian economy since most is exported.
User_Name: bren 62
Date: Wednesday March 25, 2015
Time: 03:09 PM
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User_Name: Yukon Girl
Date: Wednesday March 25, 2015
Time: 12:34 PM
Hopefully the Government will step in this year and start taxing the mushroom buyers, also put rules & regulations in place for the whole mushroom industry, its a business just like any other here in Canada.
User_Name: ol' gulch
Date: Wednesday March 25, 2015
Time: 11:51 AM
Hey everyone, I'm looking to get more wild mushroom and foraged vegetable diversity for my farmers market table in the fraser valley. i can only pick so much myself in the window of time it will stay fresh, and some things grow too far away to warrant me driving up to... the okanogan for example. buying from someone who lives up there and shipping it down is the only practical way. If there's anyone around bc who picks anything from wild asparagus to fiddleheads to chanterelles- whatever it may be, send me an email! I'm really trying to grow my network of fellow foragers this spring. Happy hunting to all, counting down to those morels. yourwildestfoods@gmail.com
User_Name: Peter
Date: Wednesday March 25, 2015
Time: 11:26 AM
I have met some czechs up in Yukon last year,mostly young kids and they had work and study visas.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Wednesday March 25, 2015
Time: 09:21 AM
I would like to wish all pickers the very best for this season. May the American pickers find their buckets full and high prices at the buying stations. May the same be true for those on the Canadian burns. In Canada we have a real issue with some companies bringing in and supporting Czech and European pickers. I don't see any threat from American pickers in Canada and I for one consider my American friends, brothers, from south of an imaginary boarder. I would also like to thank my American brothers for all the help for the last 30 yrs. PEACE
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 08:09 PM
Well there are a lot of pickers from Europe, USA in Canada and is becoming a bigger issue. Many just pick and don't sell their mushrooms but take them home. (where they probably sell them for more than in Canada) I think its legal to pick for your own consumption. I think its the same in the usa if you have the right picking permit.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 08:04 PM
heh Austin can you give me a quick email plz ................ kingmorel@hotmail.com ......... Randy
User_Name: Keith Stone
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 12:27 PM
Hey everybody! whatz up! we need a buyer too down here asap! WE'RE NOT TOO FAR FROM YREAKA and the flush is just starting to come on good and we're drying them now but soon we'll have plenty - too many really - so we need a fresh market buyer for them. PLEEZE POST YOUR INFORMATION - IF YOUR A BUYER - SO WE CAN GET TOGETHER !!!!!!
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 12:16 PM
Sorry folks, looks like our trolls have returned, as they have been trained to do. I will delete their inappropriate messages as soon as possible.
So far, all their posts have been directed at me personally. If you have complaints about me please do so on another board http://matsiman.com/arch/saywhatyouwant.htm
Please be patient. Thanks, Matsiman
User_Name: Jackie Brown
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 09:02 AM
Hey I would like some information on ANY BUYER for my morels too. Southern Oregon area. I am part of a small crew and we could deliver to the buyer if your not too far...?
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 08:58 AM
If you don't like the way I monitor this board, go somewhere else. Matsiman
User_Name: Handy J
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 08:19 AM
Any word from the big fires in Southern Oregon. Or cali for that matter?
User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 08:08 AM
Here, Here!! Andy.......
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 07:08 AM
Lets get on a different discussion. Leave the politics for the politicians. This is a mushroom discussion page, not a political forum. Thanks, Matsiman
User_Name: Ryan Wylie
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 07:08 AM
IF THERE ARE ANY MOREL BUYERS IN NORTHERN CA OR SOUTHERN OR WHO SEE MY POST PLEASE PUT YOU BUYING PRICE AND/OR LOCATION ON HERE. I MAY BE ABLE TO SELL TO YOU
User_Name: Ryan Wylie
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 05:58 AM
ANYBODY KNOW THE CURRENT PRICE FOR MORELS?
User_Name: Pete Stefani
Date: Tuesday March 24, 2015
Time: 03:54 AM
It's the mushroom companies (who are the de facto employers of the illegals aliens) who are to blame! Like so many other businesses who put the illegals to work for slave wages under the table because they were cheap and could break good American labor and collapse wages. Lots of people were happy to put real Americans out of work for cheap labor for themselves. Get it????
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 09:44 PM
Austin; I may have known that buyer, he was renting a home in Cave Junction when I met him in about 1996. He desired some red milk caps for a Thanksgiving dish he wanted to cook so I gave him a gallon or so. His name slips my mind right now but he was slim and not too tall.
User_Name: Austin
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 09:10 PM
It's not the pickers but your government enforcers. There was a buyer from B.C. down in Oregon years ago and he got escorted back to the border and told to not come back. Other buyers made the call to border security because he was paying more to pickers and bought most of the shrooms. Now this person is a field manager for a large Canadian mushroom company and reports all non-Canadian pickers to immigration. All he does is drive around to all the buyers. Looking for illegals is a sport for him. He's good at it.
User_Name: Shroomer fur Life
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 07:41 PM
Eh, you Canadians amaze me! I spent years dodging Canadians and their Athabasca wives in MY patches down here. And you say we can't pick up there? All I can say is the INS phone will be ringing off the hook!!! Especially if you try to pick HAPPY CAMP now!!!!
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 07:27 PM
It is sad that there is not the exchange that used to be with Canadians coming south following matsutake growth & citizens of the lower 48 and Alaska picking in Canada. Before the border crackdowns it was just as common to mix & pick at the zoo as it was at Crescent or Cave Junction; good friendships were formed. The same with our southern border or friends from other lands. I recall friends who spoke of war lords and men who were not eligible for entry to the US after Viet Nam but that they were here controlling mushroom picking groups. The border crack downs may benefit some or hurt others, will we stop Snow Birds from helping stimulate our economy by preventing their travel from Canada to the warmer climes; where will it stop. I have researched and and chased fungi up north and feel it ought to be as it was when we all got along.
User_Name: Austin
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 05:38 PM
Same goes for any illegal worker in Canada. Anyone picking and/or buying mushrooms in Canada that is not a Canadian or without a work permit will be reported to the authorities. Best not to be driving up here and picking/buying our mushrooms.
User_Name: Ron
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 03:02 PM
Oh I wont send no professional crews to your patch er nuthin if you would just let me Help you.....
User_Name: Ron
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 02:58 PM
As a proud American and Liberal, I am all for deporting every illegal they can find. I do have sympathy for their situation for the most part, as I've mentioned before, but zero tolerance for border jumpers or those who overstay they're visas. Don't like your home country? Then revolution is the solution as they say! Don't run to here! Hey Mike; I can help anybody find morels too if they would just tell me where they are!!!
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 02:41 PM
felix; ... I got a little carried away and neglected to say that the answer is yes you do need a permit in most areas of the western USA. A personal use permit for less than a gallon or two in some areas and a commercial permit for more than that amount. NO amount allowed to be picked in places like Glacier National Park and if you are caught possessing even one mushroom on some protected areas you may be transported directly to jail. ............. Now as to legality of LEO's to arrest anyone in or outside the forests; the answer to my knowledge would be YES. Apparently they are federal officers with the authority to arrest anyone anywhere that they believe to be breaking any law in the US of A. I was surprised when I found out that such blanket authority was vested in them. I have met many LEO's who do not abuse the authority and are willing to deal with the public in a conservative manner. One month before my stroke I met one in Naches with many years experience who uses temperance and monitors this site learning things necessary in performance of his duties. While in another state I met a newbie who threatened me by quoting his powers of search for whatever reason he deemed necessary. He was not aware that he was helping my research.
User_Name: Iron Mike
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 01:23 PM
And........ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS BEWARE!! You will be deported if your caught and a good way to get caught is to go picking mushrooms! On another note has anybody been finding any morels yet and if so where. I can help you if you will tell me where you getting them. Lol!!!
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 01:05 PM
felix; LEO's are watching for any unlawful behavior as well as picking permits therefore I would advise against it. From my observation the younger they are the more aggressive they are. They must have been taught in there law enforcement classes that all pickers are going to try and circumvent the laws and thus are more likely agressive according to their interpretation. I have seen this on several occasions where a younger LEO was attempting to push his weight where if he had just asked or looked at his vehicle computer he would have known that I had a permit.
User_Name: Boletus joe
Date: Monday March 23, 2015
Time: 08:24 AM
Dunt! Dunt! Dunt! -------- Dunt! Dunt! Dunt!------- dunt,dunt, dunt. Morels stirring below the snow, on the slopes in the valleys. We are coming for you..... Into the dryer, or on the fire....You can't escape....
User_Name: TheyCallMeNobody
Date: Sunday March 22, 2015
Time: 08:00 AM
Thanks again, Lobo and Iron Mike too. Good info.
User_Name: felix
Date: Sunday March 22, 2015
Time: 07:44 AM
Hey, does anyone know if you need a permit to pick fire morels in the USA? Thanks!
User_Name: Iron Mike
Date: Sunday March 22, 2015
Time: 07:16 AM
Interesting comments here lately...As far as using inciweb goes it works great if you don't wait till the next year to research! lol. Now there isn't much recoverable information unless you can get the name of a speciic fire. I don't know that "they" make the information harder to access for mushroom season.
User_Name: Iron Mike
Date: Sunday March 22, 2015
Time: 07:03 AM
Ron is right as usual - the season is already underway in Cali. If you know ...the fires there from last year ...you might have some cause to "go exploring" in those areas AND LOOK into the "second year" bonanza in one or two places. Hint; Stay in shape. So you don't have to try to get in shape in a short time.
User_Name: wild side
Date: Sunday March 22, 2015
Time: 05:36 AM
For Canadian pickers, We still have a ~ meter of snow up in our backcountry. Our Morels are weeks away and Hell Yes get in better shape. ... needs little explanation $$$. When you use all transportation methods, its helpful to be able to portage, carry heavy loads and push to high levels when its popping for weeks on end. eat right, sleep deep and so on. Respect the forest and yourself. Anyone in Canada with dried Aspen / King Boletes willing to sell, contact weilerhart@shaw.ca
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Saturday March 21, 2015
Time: 06:57 PM
We used to have Canadians picking matsi in the lower 48 but not so many since they cracked down on the permits. I surmise as long as you are legal to work here you could get permits. However it seems to me that the morels are larger and more prolific as you go north in Canada.
User_Name: seisbot
Date: Saturday March 21, 2015
Time: 12:40 PM
Anyone know if a canadian can go pick morels in the USA. Thinking of checking out fire in Washington state and don't want to get into any trouble with authorities...
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Saturday March 21, 2015
Time: 10:47 AM
Go to https://www.nifc.gov/fireInfo/fireInfo_main.html I go to for general information and maps during fire season & to http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/ for maps and current information not found on nifc. Because you desire last year’s info, look at the upper right to ‘Max Age’ click on the age and change the 90 days to 365 days. Next change the ‘Status’ to Inactive and ‘Type’ to Wildfire, and then click the ‘Reset’ button just below. Often they block us from doing spring fire research for mushrooming purposes so it is best to do your research during the fire year. I have not done any fire research for a couple of years due to the stroke; others may know current tricks or sites for better access. For some information for newbies on fire morels visit my blog. http://firemorelgrowthresearch.blogspot.com/
User_Name: Jefro Bodeen
Date: Saturday March 21, 2015
Time: 09:31 AM
we aint never did no werkin out for shape.. dont need to got it all put together now and doing real good to
User_Name: TheyCallMeNobody
Date: Saturday March 21, 2015
Time: 07:48 AM
What's the best resource for maps to 2014 wildfires in the US?
User_Name: Handy J
Date: Saturday March 21, 2015
Time: 06:49 AM
Ha ya except with the season already underway in nor cal you should already be in shape or its too late. Unless your 23, in which case you can get in shape in like 3 days! Lol
User_Name: wild side
Date: Saturday March 21, 2015
Time: 05:00 AM
get ready now! make your connections, get your gear in order, keep areas secret, get in better shape, pre-trip the area (if you can or Google Earth) , treat the venture with the utmost respect. above all stay safe and have fun.
User_Name: ntmorels
Date: Thursday March 19, 2015
Time: 02:44 PM
Heligirl, you might also google Harvesters Guide to Morel Mushrooms in the NWT. On page 9 there is a map of the 2014 fires and you may be able to glean some information re. contacts from the publication.
User_Name: ntmorels
Date: Thursday March 19, 2015
Time: 02:19 PM
Heligirl there were no burns to speak of in the Yukon last year by there were huge fires in the NWT and the people there are gearing up for in influx of 2000 or more pickers along the highway between Ft. Providence and Yellowknife. There was a very significant burn between Kakisa Lake and Tathlina Lake that is in very good country for mushrooms, I think, and will be difficult to access for most pickers...also on the East Arm of Great Slave Lake. You might want to contact the Ft. Providence Dene Band, the Kakisa Dene Band, or Industry/Tourism/Investment (ITI) of the GNWT for starters if you are still interested.
User_Name: twi
Date: Thursday March 19, 2015
Time: 11:48 AM
Thank you Mountainflattops and Boletus Joe...I had the website up for a few days and was seeing nothing new...but I do see the 2014 now..just wish there was a better mapping feature as I am not familiar with this territory.. as I said I am new to PG
User_Name: Mountainflattops
Date: Thursday March 19, 2015
Time: 03:05 AM
Just checked the BC forest service site abd they gave now updated to include 2014 here is the link to the page http://bcwildfire.ca/hprScripts/WildfireNews/Fires.asp go to the bottom of the page and click on Large fires for the past three years have fun!
User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Wednesday March 18, 2015
Time: 08:54 PM
...... "twi"........ Scroll down in this window and find my email and contact me. I may be able to help. Hint---- March 14th.
User_Name: twi
Date: Wednesday March 18, 2015
Time: 06:24 PM
@ chin roll were did you see the 2014 BC fires report? I am only seeing 11 ,12 ,13.. I just moved to PG from Sask...so this is all new to me but I have been doing my homework and think I am going to give it a whirl..I aint no housewife..need to get out and about
User_Name: TheyCallMeNobody
Date: Wednesday March 18, 2015
Time: 03:34 AM
Lobo thanks again. I'm gonna be trying to create my own niche too I guess. I've got to figure out selling and shipping. Your comments are very helpful.
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday March 17, 2015
Time: 07:34 PM
TheyCallMeNobody; I cannot pick or drive due to my stroke but back in the day I developed my own niche in the marketplace. Several favorite chefs and resorts were top on my delivery route and if they knew I was coming they planned accordingly even if someone else came by with product; some stores bought from me also. If I had enough product then Bistros were good for a few pounds as well as Farmers Markets; I had lots of fun selling and educating folks about various mushrooms. I only sold “true morels” and never ½ frees or Verpas. I could harvest and market morels in the western states as much as ten months out of the year if I wanted to do so by including eBay in my strategies. I cut my stems at ¼ to ½ inch because not many people like to buy long stems. I dried the stems at full length; sans the dirt, if I planned to use them in my edible art. http://moreldoctor.blogspot.com/
User_Name: TheyCallMeNobody
Date: Tuesday March 17, 2015
Time: 05:03 PM
Thanks Lobo. I have been calling some restaurants in Arkansas but haven't actually gone to any in person. Thanks for the tips.
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday March 17, 2015
Time: 04:46 PM
TheyCallMeNobody; On the right side of this page are links to pages within the site, this one may help you. http://matsiman.com/bypiccontact/buyer_contacts.htm You might look in the want ads for a local buyer but the best results often come from visiting a local CoOp store or restaurants; be clean and presentable to make a good impression and ready with samples of your product. You ought to be able to sell for double, triple or more than a buyer might pay you but only if you have clean, knife cut and even stemmed product.
User_Name: twi
Date: Tuesday March 17, 2015
Time: 03:57 PM
I am still only seeing 2010-2013
User_Name: Chin Roll
Date: Tuesday March 17, 2015
Time: 11:53 AM
BC fire maps and data are out, for anyone who was wondering. Whooee, can't wait for first morels of the season!!
User_Name: TheyCallMeNobody
Date: Tuesday March 17, 2015
Time: 09:45 AM
Who can I sell morels to in Missouri and Arkansas?
User_Name: Ron
Date: Monday March 16, 2015
Time: 03:04 PM
Credit where credit is due. Information has value, some more so than others. Don't give away valuable information to those who you feel are undeserving or would squander it. Some people would just hate you for it rather than appreciate.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Monday March 16, 2015
Time: 09:15 AM
I agree in general about what you share with buyers but plz keep in mind that what you now know mostly is because those before you shared what they know. Andy here is a good example of that.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Monday March 16, 2015
Time: 09:09 AM
http://bcwildfire.ca/History/firelocations.htm 2014 list will be out soon. You got to save info during the fire season as well... full buckets to all
User_Name: Handy J
Date: Monday March 16, 2015
Time: 09:01 AM
um ya omg whatever you do don't EVER tell a field buyer where your finding mushrooms. Sometimes they figure it out anyway, like if there is a burn nearby. In which case you can dry them rather than running to the buyer every day. I don't think this needs explanation for most people but for those who don't think well for themselves here 'tis; You tell your friendly buyer where your picking and next thing you know a bunch of mexicans show up in your area. Or asians. Or hillbilly/winos. And they search around until they find the spots, then clean you out. An believe me the can clean out a huge area FAST!!!!!! The filed buyer wants quantity as the more pounds he gets the more money he makes. I know. Duh. Right?
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Monday March 16, 2015
Time: 07:56 AM
Ron & Mad morel, Thanks for the good advice. I've said it before, and will say it again. Don't tell anyone where or how much you are picking. The result could very well be you are over run by others. Do your own investigations and learn what weather conditions are likely to produce, and what areas have a history of producing with the right weather, intensity of burn and vegetation type. Good luck to all this spring. Matsiman
User_Name: Ron
Date: Monday March 16, 2015
Time: 07:33 AM
Indeed, good advice from an old timer. I would add that the changing times require some adjustment. For example for those who don't sell their days haul at a buying station, information comes from different sources. In our case we have our own network and don't share important info outside it. Sometime people will fish for information under the guise of "helping" you. But weather they're an old fashioned field buyer, or internet "expert" you may find they just want information you have so they can send their own people to where you are! Be smart. Keep valuable information within your own crew, or group of associates.
User_Name: Mad morel
Date: Monday March 16, 2015
Time: 07:23 AM
It may look like a bad year for morel's if you believe in what they the picker's have been talking about. But the true picker that dose not talk is one that may tell you the same as I well watch your weather to where you plan on going to and know what the weather was like for the year before an up to date for the next six months. look at the History of where your going and how and if it's a good place to look. and what about the people that live there, because they well be the best to chat with on what to find. It's all about home work and if you did good in school you well have the best luck if not find a Job and don't dream about the big dollar's because only those that do there home work well be ten step's ahead of you and know how and where to look for the best picking spot's. why would they won't to tell you, for they relay on what they know to put the dollar's in there bank and not yours. It's just the way it's been for many years and I know I've been around many year's (over 40+ ) years it's best not to ask anyone at the buying station's let other's talk but never believe all that you "HEAR". be safe and leave nothing you carry with you out there but pack it out even if it's not yours. It's your Forest, your Land and your Home and all that live in the wood's as well. If you really won't find a lot well give some sugar and tobacco and say a pray to the spirit's of the forest and give thanks for the year before and the year ahead of you if you believe. later Andy and Lobo also boletus Joe and daddy of Washington Bucket to you all.
User_Name: Ron
Date: Monday March 16, 2015
Time: 06:16 AM
I'm getting reports of Morels being found now in the last year burns in S. Oregon as well as the burns from the previous year. Naturals mostly......
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Sunday March 15, 2015
Time: 08:49 PM
BJ we will not know until fire list and maps are published... coming soon. from experience, and looking at the fire area, I would say its most of the valleys and mountain sides.. specially knowing the amount of HT burned.
User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Saturday March 14, 2015
Time: 03:14 PM
"Northern" Thanks for the interest. and thanks to the other party that contacted me, but I am still in the dark.... I know where it is and I know how big it is, What I want to know is where the perimeter's are ( the edge of the fire in relation to the area).... width, length etc. So far I have not been able to find that info.... boletus@telus.net
User_Name: Northern
Date: Saturday March 14, 2015
Time: 06:37 AM
Boletus Joe- anyone help you out there? tried email- didnt go through
User_Name: ol' gulch
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 10:31 PM
Hey Matsiman, I agree about needing to provide recipes and ideas to people when selling them matsi. I bring this book to my market tables: http://www.amazon.ca/Shroom-Mind-bendingly-Recipes-Cultivated-Mushrooms/dp/1449448267 It has some really cool recipes and lots of great, appetizing pictures. One that I liked a lot was matsutake yorkshire puddings with scallion butter. Something of my own invention that worked out nicely was creamy matutake crepes. A chef that I brought some mushrooms to made a matsutake ice cream desert- that was really tasty as well.
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 09:35 PM
A few years back I was selling almost all of the yellow tip coral that I could pick to an extended family of Korean extraction. They had not seen it since departing from Korea and were drying most of it to sell to others from their homeland. I never saw mushrooms growing in the Korean countryside during the time I was stationed there. However that was in the early 70's and the pines were recently planted after the Korean War and were not mature enough yet then for fungal production.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 07:19 PM
BJ check your email
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 06:23 PM
shroomkid, Thanks for the update on Korean mushrooms.
Not sure if the same thing could happen here. We have the FDA to deal with. They
frown on any claims of medicinal uses and persist in discouraging marketers from
using medicinal claims.
Then there is the fungi phobia aspect. North Americans have been taught to
beware of wild mushrooms. Hard to change a thing like that.
I have found most Americans don't like the taste of matsi. The response I get is
that they are too strong in flavor. I suggest they use them more as a seasoning
rather than a dish or side dish, but most I give them to don't want to try them
a second time. I do know a few people who love them. As you know, I don't eat
mushrooms. If I did, it wouldn't be fresh matsi.
I tried a few years back to get people interested in smoke dried matsi with the
same idea you have, get more Americans interested in eating matsi in some form.
Didn't work I guess cause I didn't sell much. People on the board make their
own. Gave away more than I sold.
What I think is needed is some dynamite recipes and a sampling table at markets.
Also entice chefs in larger numbers to cook dishes with matsi.
Matsiman
User_Name: shroomkid
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 05:28 PM
Hi matsiman, the two mycologists who were giving the talk here were in S. Korea in 2013. The mushroom-loving culture is alive and well in the country, and dare I say it, kicking butt. On top of that, their pine forests - the majority of the species - have matured enough that they are producing matsu in significant quantities. They were not producing anything worth talking about 18 years ago, for sure. Their fungi-love hadn't even really begun to be fostered. now it is both the government and private industry who are studying and producing quantities of edible and medicinal fungi that would amaze us here. Apparently you can't drive into a region without finding an operation of one sort or another, and mushroom celebrations at our favourite time of year like we don't see here, except in California. Things are so advanced that farmers can grow oak to sell to substrate producers, who only produce substrate for mushroom growers, commercial and otherwise. It is high time for us here to encourage and foster a real love of the edible and medicinal fungi in our countries. With the new Korean matsu, the Russian influx, and the more recently picked eastern species, our western matsu need a more local market badly. It would be truly fantastic to see them on the shelves of our local grocery stores in the fall. but that's just my two cents. I wonder how we would do that. but that could be a convo for the other board.
User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 03:21 PM
Red Deer Creek Fire, I hate to ask, But does anyone have a "fire boundary map" of this fire. I was to late for the Forestry URL. You can get me at "boletusattelusdotnet" Just trying to determine if there is road access. Thanks a bunch.
User_Name: Ron
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 09:42 AM
Hey I saw some morels at whole foods and they looked great! But a little spendy.....Hey pete - ya and facts are really just a matter of opinion too.
User_Name: Daddy in Wa
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 06:23 AM
Wife saw morels in our local grocery store. She took a picture and it sure looked like a mixture of blacks, greys and blondes but a little hard to tell from the picture. Seems to me it is way too early for that variety of fire morels in Washington state. She said they were all pretty small. Hmmm.
User_Name: Pete Stefani
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 04:49 AM
I don't know if the weather forecast is any good anymore. Did anybody else hear the national weather service website was hacked into by a bunch of liberals and now the science they use is no good no more? See that's whats wrong with America. I heard about it on the radio. See us conservatives got our own science and it's the kind that goes fits well with big business and religion not that liberal kind that bad for business.
User_Name: Pete Stefani
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 04:31 AM
Boy It would sure be nice if those so-called forest managers in MT and ID Allowed the public to access their forests to pick morels this season.
User_Name: rover
Date: Friday March 13, 2015
Time: 03:26 AM
Any thoughts on pine nettle kill and how well it produces morels.?
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Thursday March 12, 2015
Time: 09:39 PM
Boletus Joe; Hummmmm, there has been some on TV and magazines about the diehard mushroom folks sneaking in to their bolete and other mushroom patches after the big nuclear disaster ‘soooooo’ I would surmise that the Siberian woods are full of multi-generational foragers.
User_Name: Bletus Joe
Date: Thursday March 12, 2015
Time: 09:25 PM
Look at this, https://ressaure.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/new-finds-in-2013-4-burnsite-morels-morchella-sp/ .....and Google " Forest fires in Siberia morels " have fun
User_Name: Boletus Joe
Date: Thursday March 12, 2015
Time: 09:08 PM
Here is a bone to knaw on.... IS there any Morels in Siberia? If so can one go there and pick? What if someone were to put a crew together....Hmmmmmm.
User_Name: ol' gulch
Date: Thursday March 12, 2015
Time: 08:17 PM
Oh geez, i hope we don't get into another round of people talking about not talking about where they pick. Not posting anything at all works just as well too;)
User_Name: Fapper
Date: Thursday March 12, 2015
Time: 08:01 PM
You guys can do your own research on the web. I spent hours and hours doing mine and I'm not going to share my findings. Put in your time so YOU know whats up in the territories or Yukon!
User_Name: ol' gulch
Date: Thursday March 12, 2015
Time: 05:07 PM
Heligirl- the Yukon wildfire website hasn't released their 2014 fire map yet, but based on the rest of my researching, and my time in Carmacks last summer, I don't think last year was a big burn year up there. The Northwest Territories had a few big ones I believe. No idea what quality they were for producing morels though. if I'm wrong on any of this, someone correct me.
User_Name: Heli Girl
Date: Thursday March 12, 2015
Time: 02:11 PM
Looking to fly for mushroom pickers into fly in locations to get better picking. Anyone know of work for June in the Yukon?
User_Name: Handy J
Date: Thursday March 12, 2015
Time: 05:49 AM
I was gonna use my 3 weeks vacation for morels but on good advice I decided not to do that. Better catch a plane to Hawaii for two and save the other wk for hunting this yr.
User_Name: Bee
Date: Wednesday March 11, 2015
Time: 08:25 PM
SSAlaska there's buyer there. I was there last year.. my brother buys there every year
User_Name: Iron Mike
Date: Tuesday March 10, 2015
Time: 04:17 PM
I heard morels are being found at lower elevation in a certain Nor Cal burn...but I cant where that is.
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Tuesday March 10, 2015
Time: 10:46 AM
Daddy; its sent.
User_Name: Spinner Chicks
Date: Tuesday March 10, 2015
Time: 10:36 AM
Ron I lost your number - can you call me at the bar? After 2 pm weekdays. :)-
User_Name: Daddy in Wa
Date: Tuesday March 10, 2015
Time: 09:14 AM
Lobo, Could you email me that phone number? Don't think I have it anymore. coffeybusinessatmacdotcom
User_Name: Ron
Date: Tuesday March 10, 2015
Time: 09:07 AM
The reliable estimates have stocks of dried morels very low right now. Last year was not a good year commercially by most accounts and if the coming season is poor as well, and that's whats expected, what might that do to prices of both fresh and dried? How much fresh there is around right now is impossible to know although I have heard reports of some here and there. Btw high, or higher retail prices do not necessarily translate to more money for the people who gather the mushrooms. When morels are relatively scarce as they will be expected to be this spring, the pickers may make LESS money because they are scarce. Or to put it another way, it's better to get 10 bucks a pound picking a good burn than it is to grub around trying find scarce mushrooms worth 15.00 a pound in a poor season.
User_Name: Dreads
Date: Monday March 09, 2015
Time: 09:39 AM
Hey Fapper there has been pretty decent snow and rain in the Wa cascades. Ample amounts for a good morel season in any of the burns from last summer. I'm expecting a decent season here.
User_Name: ssalaska33
Date: Sunday March 08, 2015
Time: 05:57 PM
I am going out the end of May or early June to check the Moon Lake burn in Tok, Alaska. Hopefully a good second year harvest ! They were so thick last summer thats why I am thinking a second spring may produce well. There was a VERY good harvest last year. I worked with a group of Laotian and Muohng people and we had an AWESOME harvest. I have a boat and mushroom experience. Anyone know if there is a buyer available who may want to come up and buy ? Terry, Huong or his son ? Would like to chat with someone who may be coming up this way !! I want to make some $$$ again this summer ! Send me a message to ssalaska33@yahoo.com
User_Name: Fapper
Date: Sunday March 08, 2015
Time: 05:49 PM
YA, unfortunately it's looking like the spring season in the US at least the commercial season in the west, will be a bust for the most part. Maybe the USFS will allow picking in Idaho or Montana this year, they have had plenty or precipitation over there. I'm still hoping for some kind of season up here in BC tho.......
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Sunday March 08, 2015
Time: 05:05 PM
Daddy in Washington; Yepper I am getting anxious for morels also but of course I won’t be out there looking for any to eat. I have taken some steps with and without the cane but need the therapist helping me maintain balance. Morels come on good this time of year and earlier in the hot desert country where farmers are irrigating their crops so I would expect that the same may be happening soon in the more northern climes where you live. Since you are on the west slope you may be luckier than usual if the weather is a bit drier than normal because the morels are often more prolific in the drier east side but now if the soils are similar in your area as to what they often are on Augusts side… …well just maybe. The farmers may not use drip-line irrigation in your area but I would be watching any type of irrigation in any vegetative situation, near any water source and spring field or ditch burning which may warm the soil for early morels. My favorite morel comes on in the burn sites mostly after the commercial groups have gone for chanterelles and matsutake but this year the burns may be overrun with the type that loves the dry heat. Good luck my friend and may the mushroom gods be good to you. I still have the same phone number as when we hunted that Bear Valley burn, call most anytime, I am rarely unavailable.
User_Name: JoDee
Date: Sunday March 08, 2015
Time: 02:53 PM
Well a few weeks ago I commented about how strange I thought it was that some people still try to eek out a few measly dollars picking/selling mushrooms. Now we can all see the weather has gone bad and I wonder how many will still bother in a poor season? This will not be a good spring for morels anywhere.
User_Name: Daddy in Wa
Date: Sunday March 08, 2015
Time: 09:08 AM
With the clock change and weather warming up I am getting really anxious for morels. I'm not a commercial picker but I still love the hunt and my cupboard is bare from being out of the states for the last three years. Can't wait to hit the slopes and hope I might come across Mad Morel out in the bush. Also wishing JT could be out there as well, thanks for the cool Xmas card and I'm glad you are feeling better and getting more mobile.
User_Name: Billy Bob
Date: Saturday March 07, 2015
Time: 03:41 PM
theres so many good areas from last years fires in northern cal and southern oregon its hard to know where to start! i don't think any internet experts can take the place of good old fashioned scouting and walking the burns yourself theres too many variables and i still would like to get with a crew or will just have to go it alone maybe?
User_Name: Ridgewalker
Date: Saturday March 07, 2015
Time: 04:57 AM
Went out for a walk Thurs afternoon. Saw a number of babies popping at around 1100 feet in a tried and true area!! Going today to see how they are growing! I'm stoked... those fires here in S Ore and No Cal started not much higher than that.
User_Name: kingmorel
Date: Friday March 06, 2015
Time: 07:51 PM
Oregon gulch fire has small fire cups but I have not seen any morels yet. Not a lot of good ground there really. violets and some other herbs and flowers are just starting to bloom. Ground is still damp.
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Friday March 06, 2015
Time: 11:19 AM
Jackie Brown; The best indicators that I observe are the wildflower growth, if you cannot yet be on site then check for a weather post near an interested area. For many years I have observed wildflowers, trees, shrubs and have found them to be more reliable than taking soil temperatures. My favorite is heart-leaf arnica but have used flowering things in town as an indicator for higher elevation areas.
User_Name: Jackie Brown
Date: Friday March 06, 2015
Time: 06:30 AM
Anybody know whats up in the northern california or southern oregon burns? should be time right about nowish and theres a huge amount of ground around that area
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Friday March 06, 2015
Time: 04:28 AM
User_Name: shroomkid
Date: Thursday March 05, 2015
Time: 10:42 PM
Hi matsiman, some interesting work being done in Korea (and Japan?) on matsutake is taking a look at the effect on fruiting when the mycelium is given an electric shock. they are devising portable units that they can "plug into" a mycelium mat, send a certain kind and amount of current into it, and then leave it alone. The matsi are producing more mushrooms when they do this. Another thing that is happening is that Korea is really beginning to produce some matsutake of their own, and in significant numbers. It looks like they are on the vanguard of all kinds of mushroom cultivation, and culture. Read that as actual cultivating and encouraging of the mushrooms, as well as encouraging the culture in the people and their living habits - for greater health as well as greater food security. As their forests mature (mostly replanted after the Korean War, in the 60's it looks like), and their efforts get better and better at increasing their fungal production, whether in the forests, labs, or technologically-advanced cultivating operations, they will be needing less and less of our mushrooms... It looks like we need to really do some work on our domestic consumption and the market here, work on the "culture". takes time though... just some thoughts on a lovely Thursday night. Full buckets to all!
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Wednesday March 04, 2015
Time: 08:19 PM
Lobo, Thanks for volunteering to help and share your morel knowledge and experience with visitors. I'm sure visitors will appreciate any advice you can give. If there is any way the site or I can help, please let me know. Matsiman
User_Name: Mikebrat
Date: Wednesday March 04, 2015
Time: 12:03 PM
Hello all , anyone know Rhonda's contact info ? I went out with her in Nelson area a few years back for a morel season and would like to go again this year with a couple friends for 5 - 7 weeks , or if any buyers would email me at mikebrat@hotmail.com , I know there are always buyers on the hills but like to commit to one if possible ..... Cheers and thank you for any info :-)
User_Name: Lobo
Date: Wednesday March 04, 2015
Time: 09:20 AM
I was very tired last night after almost two hours of slowly typing. I certainly am not one who knows all there is to be known about morels. There have been many before me and will be even more after I have passed on. I have seen those who consistently pick closer to 100 lbs per day when I might only get one gallon due to lying on my belly then up again and down again to get the best angle photos for my research; then rushing off to another site only to repeat the processes. I have however possibly researched a few more and varied sites than have previously been done and have driven as many as 100,000 research miles in one calendar year, documented and deducted off my taxes. If desired I will respond to morel questions via private Email. http://firemorelgrowthresearch.blogspot.com/
User_Name: Spinner chucks
Date: Wednesday March 04, 2015
Time: 08:45 AM
Oh Ron I wasn't talking about you when I said senior moment, it was the previous comments about not bothering with morels. Don't get all hyperventilating dude!
User_Name: John Holmes, Lobo
Date: Tuesday March 03, 2015
Time: 10:43 PM
Ron; …agree with your comment about mushroom board information. I used to help with fire morel information as a moderator and as a contributor; I quit one board when I discovered the owner to be unethical and another board when my research was disrespected. I posted my photographic proof and the liar in question promised to post his evidence but never did. I later discovered that proof he had was based upon a photograph that I had sent to the “mushroom expert” and my information got convoluted when posted on that site. I have not visited those two sites for several years; I figure that they obviously do not need my help since they have all knowledge. On mushroom expert board several years ago as the morelluvinteddybear; I was called a liar when I first informed the Dr/owner about grey fuzzy footed morels. At that time his site information stated that all fire morels were black angusticeps; to get their information they had researched one Southern Colorado burn, whereas I have researched hundreds of burns. After I and others sent him dried samples he revised his site and book in progress; but neglected to give credit where it was due. I no longer help on any site except this one right here. Since my stroke I now must leave the search & research of morels & fire morels to those who are younger and more able; perhaps they will discover new truths and share with others as some of us have with newbees who visit here each spring. It even takes me more than an hour to type this missive and I am tired, goodnight.
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Tuesday March 03, 2015
Time: 09:55 AM
conicalifornia, Thought you fell of the end of the Earth! Guess you missed my post on your theory of spring rains and matsi production. I checked achieved rain records for the Chemult area and found no correlation between good crops and spring and early summer rains. In fact, no correlation between spring, summer or early fall rains. Good thought though. You could be partially correct. Spring weather is root growth time. Since matsi expands as roots grow, it stands to reason a good year for root growth would also be a good year for matsi expansion. Could be this situation creates a possibility for a good year for matsi but, doesn't mean it will be a good year, only the possibility. Hope your right about the weather pattern changing. We sure could use the rain. Matsiman
User_Name: Ron
Date: Tuesday March 03, 2015
Time: 09:31 AM
One last thing - The internet is loaded with information on morels, hell, all mushrooms really. So it would not be at all difficult for anybody to read up on this stuff, then go around to the comment boards posing as knowledgeable. Just sayin........
User_Name: Ron
Date: Tuesday March 03, 2015
Time: 09:28 AM
Hey spinner chick - I'm not a senior and have never had a "senior moment" except occasionally if I am really stoned. Per the spring weather forecast for our part of the world , this isn't rocket science and it can be of some help if you have a friend like I do who's an old timer and really good at the long range weather forecasting. Hey it doesn't hurt to go with the National Weather Service forecast either, I mean duh!. My old friend bever never misses the forecast by much and therefore neither do I and my crews. The burns from last summer are all over the west and no matter what anybody claims there will be morels in some places. There was nothing but crying and sniveling last spring over the crop and and at the same time we had all we could get. Again it goes back to knowing what your doing. Some experts are more expert than others. Who usually suffers most in a lean season is the ones who think they are experts.
User_Name: conicalifornia
Date: Tuesday March 03, 2015
Time: 08:34 AM
Hello Matsiman and all, seeing major weather pattern change along west coast starting next tuesday 3/10 and is looking like a wet spring might be in store? By early next week the jet stream dynamics and pressure gradients appear to be shifting in favor of rains for southern oregon down to central california and is hopefully going to support the storms or low pressures from all going north into canada in march/april and bringing more storms further south through spring and summer. Many factors are responsible but couple biggies are the "madden joulian oscillation" (subtropical moisture rich large condensing cloud tops around the trades) is becoming increasingly active last few days, and the longer diurnal heat fueling the storms should really help break down the 'ridiculous resilient ridge' that has been affecting our precipitation the last few years and moisture thus our larger mushroom crops. I would not be surprised to see a wet pattern persist through the middle of summer and support a wonderful crop of morels and boletes this spring and early summer. Moreover it could be a very good late summer for matsutake if the rains do come to fruition this spring? I have my fingers crossed! full buckets
User_Name: Foragette
Date: Monday March 02, 2015
Time: 09:26 PM
David is in Alberta! He was the guest speaker at the AMS presidents dinner. had the pleasure of snow shoeing out for chaga with him and several AMS members yesterday!
User_Name: Spinner Chicks
Date: Monday March 02, 2015
Time: 08:35 PM
Whats up! ? Somebody have a senior moment? or whole day? Ron are you being for real? It seems out of sorts for you to say what you said. A joke I'm sure, right? Don't know nothing bout no digtal marketing neether. Lol lol lol
User_Name: Ron
Date: Monday March 02, 2015
Time: 10:46 AM
I think it's good to try to steer people away from the big burns and away from morels in general. It's for the best. Go look for Porcini.
User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Monday March 02, 2015
Time: 06:53 AM
jadecollins, Thanks for the tips on digital marketing. I have always been the worst at marketing. Can't sell anything. Adds on this site are FREE. Don't know how adds here are working for those placing them but some visitors update their adds occasionally. Matsiman
User_Name: jadecollins
Date: Monday March 02, 2015
Time: 02:08 AM
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User_Name: Matsiman
Date: Sunday March 01, 2015
Time: 01:41 PM
Mad morel, Haven't seen David in years. He may be in Thailand. Matsiman
User_Name: Mad morel
Date: Sunday March 01, 2015
Time: 08:19 AM
I have a lot of trust respect and faith in what Dave has to say this could be a year for spring boletes and if it happens I have a lot of spring bolets patches up this way. How long has it been Search you seen Dave I've been trying to get in touch with him I study plot up my way. wish all the morale hunters this year a prosperous season which may not materialize may do better hunting ticks that morale. Scottsville got some prospecting to do today
User_Name: Mad morel
Date: Sunday March 01, 2015
Time: 08:11 AM
Dreads,FYI As soon as the weather starts warming up soon I will this next weekend you may find that the rules may not be doing well this year and far worse than last year that you might just want to save your gas and hope for the boletes to show. With warm weather bleach do much much better With far less moisture Yes I said moisture not rain Rain is just an added benefit. Far less snow pack this year But still there is moisture in the ground Laurels depend on a good room and good stuff pack Added up and take your chances that what you feel is the best.