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to enlargeMonday 12/28/2009 Fresh picked Chantrells for sale $12.00 per pound.Looking for buyers Morals &Chantrells. Contact me (805)441-4107 or email pgwaterdawg@gmail.com
best of the season to all you good people..... hope the morels come good this spring ,,,, there was sure enough fires.... ger
Ho Ho ho..... In the New Year I will have to learn how to post photos here.... I can only say Merry Christmas, I wanted to show you all the matsi I picked on the 21st, Oh well they will go nice with the turkey. Good cheer, Good luck, Good hunting....
Merry Christmas :-)
Merry Christmas everyone,and may the new year bring good health and full buckets!
Good to hear about Birkenhead - A spectacular place. About up high during mid October, if they aren't low and offer easy access, don't give up to easily and start climbing. Every time we've been up high there (west facing, rather steep), we were heavily rewarded. If possible and reliable, call the buyers to determine volumne recently purchased -could save alot of efforts. Well mushroom friends, All the Best during the Christmas Holiday and the New Year.
wildside birkenhead hasn't changed much as there was a battle over a small business sale right in the middle of the patch and it was preserved for now.... there is a real idiot running the small business program out of chilliwack and i suspect he will try another sale soon... this area was promised as a mushroom preserve years ago but the forest service seems to have lost any paper work pertaining to this.... for now it is preserved.... 4 months of a information blockade etc etc..... the locals will never allow logging in this area without a huge battle ..... and as for up high and big .... sometimes.... ger
Thanks Alvo, we used to pick Mt. Currie area years ago -Birkenhead up high has huge Mats & is worth the climb - so I'll have a look next time there. Hopfully development hasn't changed surrounding area too much. Thanksgiving weekend used to be the peak time there but buyers volumne tells alot. Does anyone know reports of truffles found interior BC?
Dead link, Boletus Joe
Holy smokes Boletus Joe,havnt seen you post for so long,I thought you must have went wormy,kelly creek ,nice and hilly and late,happy trails
Maybe this will work? Merry Christmas from the Moral Patch http://localhost:8090/pzyvdvtc
I live in the bay area an was lucky enough to have yesterday off and spent my time foraging. I came up on 14 gorgeous white matsutake weighing probably 10 lbs in total. I then came home cleaned them and used William rubel's recepie for matsi soup which was amazing to say the least. I'm trying to head out today to find some king boletes anyone know of an area in Marin that wouldn't be to picked over? Thanks Gunnar p.s. Rubel's recepie http://www.williamrubel.com/mushrooms/matsutake-recipe
Hi shroomertom. You big meanie, I almost choked on my coffee reading the Santa Thing :-) Too funny!
Santa Clara Picker: Used to live down that way. Santa Cruz hills good area. But most of it private property...so be careful. What's going on in OR? See my Wild Mushroom Hotline website: http://members.tripod.com/tgmy
likewise iTk,likewise,if I could get across the border,I would be down there right now,have a good winter
ALVO NO WORRIES. JUST KEEP IT IN MIND. HAPPY TRAILS.
Sorry iTk but the mountains are frozen here and I dont have a photo,garf,not the green ones , we need a madrona buyer on the island,is ladysmith evergreens still buying,thanks
does any one know where i can pick a pound or two while im in santa clara visiting family, they have never had any wild mushrooms and i would like to turn them on to the chants, any state or county parks close by that i might find a handfull or two any info greatly appreciated thanks
oppps i try to avoid that.... sry ..... betty is actually in this area right now making christmas wreaths.... or she was at least .... are these truffles from here good eating?? ger
Alvo do you live in the Pemberton area? i sometimes find those lttle brown truffle types under the fir trees too.... they don't smell very good at all .... but i did keep a couple.... i would see little bumps or just the sensing that there was something under there ..... just old time picking sense .... also squirrel activity sometimes ..... did you know that Georgina has neverrrrrrrr gone mushroom picking .... lol ger
Carla, Thanks for the donation to the site and studies. Your help is much appreciated. Later, Matsiman
ALVO, THAT GREEN SPONGY ONE U FIND HIGH SOUNDS LIKE ONE WE FIND VERY HIGH IN NEW MEXICO AND IS ACTUALLY IN THE RUSSALA FAMILY. ID LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK @ WHAT YOUVE GOT FOR COMPARRISON
Wildside,,Near pemberton we find them on the humps around mature fir,sometimes they are bigger than golf balls,often smaller,we find them as we are feeling around for buttons,also there is nearly always squirrel digs here and there,on the island they seem to be the same truffle,but always small,I have never found them in the fir here as it is mostly long gone,we find them on the sides of trails ,the indicater is always squirrel digs,thats about all the info I can share,maybe georgina erikson,the buyer in pemberton can give more info,they used to have the biggest truffle of the day contest a few years back, also betty shore must know as much as anyone,good luck,the guy matsiman mentioned has an interesting site also,but I think he is growing blacks,I think the truffles here are Oregon whites, even though they dont look white,also there is a green ugly looking very spongy type that we find up high,it looks like shit and i suspect it tastes even worse,
Alvo, i'd like to learn about your truffle hunt experience from start to finish if you don't mind sharing. -the trees, how you find them, harvest methods and so on. much apprecited. also, for those who are interested in collecting data and monitoring sciency stuff, there are funds available from universities and trusts and such that will offer micro grants for study provided the correct paper work is complete. not overly difficult to do and is worth the effort. peace folks.
alvo, really don't know anything about truffles. You might try contacting Charlie at http://www.truffletree.com/ He may know of a buyer or may buy them as stock for his inoculation work.
Well,matsiman,your definitely doing good stuff,we are aware of that,thankfully I could express my opinion without being critiqued in a nasty way,this is good,intelligent conversation,so do you know much about northern washington truffles,we keep finding them in southwest b.c is there a market,thanks ,later alvo
alvo, To answer your question as to why the undersized were not taken, I can give you one example from my own experience. In 1997 in the Oregon Cascades it was a bumper year. I was monitoring patches in section 19 near Chemult. On the walk in to my monitoring area, I ran across the same type of disturbance as shown in the picture. The damage was very widespread and very recent. So recent I suspected it had just happened. I followed the path of continuous disturbance. Along the way it became evident it was at least 3 people due to the slightly different habits in their methods. Well I finally caught up with them as they were returning back the same way the came in. I confronted them. Guess what, the USFS manager in charge of the program hade sent them to this area. When I asked why they had dug up the babies and left them there, the answer amazed me. They were 3 1st year college students who were given absolutely no instructions or training as to proper picking methods. They had no idea they had done anything improper and were very apologetic. I immediately confronted the manager who had nothing to say but o well shit happens. I gave him all the data I had collected to that point and quit. He didn't like that very much and begged me to continue with my work. My answer was FORGET it. If you are so irresponsible as to send untrained 1st time pickers to an area where no one was allowed, except those monitoring, I would have nothing to do with the study or his poor judgment. He assured me it would not happen again. Well in 1997 he decided to send 20 pickers a day into the same area. Some new what they were doing and some used small hand rakes and those small digging tools used in gardens. I confronted him again. His answer was, They are getting better at their picking habits. I watched one guy with a 12 inch knife, stab the knife into the ground next to a mushroom, then stomp the handle of the knife with his foot. A large hunk of soil, mycelia and the mushroom flew up about 2 feet and he caught it . He boasted how he had found a way to pick without bending over. No he didn't replace the soil, only moved to the next mushroom and did the same. That was the last year of the study at Chemult. No usable information was gained in 3 years of monitoring at the Chemult site. I understand more than 100 thousand dollars were wasted on the one site. Later, Matsiman
oregon mushrooms frozen dead are there any buyers for salal in the roseburg area i will pick salal with my crew contact me at 541459 6244 or hayesfishhunter@yahoo.com
mt. st. helens is not the only place where volcanic ash and matsi are together,nass also has some ,also old fires leave the same layer of grey ash,I find this ash in lots of locations,why did those rakers not take those undersize buttons,seems if they are that unetical that they would also show up at the buying station with even the thumb size buttons,anyways where I live I wish we only had to contend with unethical pickersintead of the private logging companies ,who have now finished fellerbunching just about all the second growth and are now well into the third ,these trees are around 35 years old,this is going on everywhere,also the wacky weather up and down the west coast,especially the heat waves are steadily taking their toll,if the trees are stressed the relationship between the mycelium and tree root and the transfer of nutrient moisture or whatever symbiotic interactions are affected,just ask randy who timberwest is ,he will agree,,
There is no question that some areas heal far quicker than others.I have also seen the ground torn up pretty bad in Powell River and Nukusp,and as Blaze2 has said,it heals up by the following year.That being said,Terrace is entirely different.The scars will remain for years sometimes,and as Matsiman said, if the beds have been dug down to the mycelia they won't produce as well as they used to.It's horrible to see the forests dug up this way,but unfortunately there will always be the odd person that does not give a damn.It only takes one or two people to destroy an area.A good picker would never have to rip the moss up.As far as I'm concerned the ones that rip up the moss have no respect for themselves or anything else.I wouldn't want to know them.
Mount saint Helens residual ash which is the type in the photograph does look a bit like dune sand in some photos. It seems clear to me that it is human not animal responsibility for the wasted matsutake in the photo because in my experience, hoofed animals scrape on each side of the button and grasp it between their teeth and pull. Sometimes the matsi pulls up and leaves a hole like a carrot will and often the teeth cut it off just above the root wad, if the mushroom is wormy it is often spat back out onto the ground away from the scrape and then the animal scrapes for other buttons, any mushrooms dropped into the scrape would be scraped into the discard area as new buttons are sought. ..... The wind blown deposition area of volcanic ash where the photo was taken has been very good for fungal propagation over the past several years. I attempted to post supportive photos in the main Matsiman Message Board & Forum but it is not working properly. ........ As for the moss discussion I agree with Andy that exposed mycilia is detrimental for future mushroom propagation even though in more moist climes the moss regenerates relatively quick, but I still replace any moss that animals or other humans may have scraped aside to help preserve future growth. In drier climes such as Crescent Lake or the Blue & Rocky Mountain matsutake areas it is often the duff layer that is cast aside and the mycilia dries out much quicker in my opinion and takes much longer to regenerate.
after rewiewing that picture. it°s got to be someone picking somekind of dune. Lot of studies have been made over white americain matsutake but don°t be surprise if the result of one area will be different of an other.let pretend all sand dune move into different high and then very rapidely so I belive the dune mycellium should devellop more efficiently witch should bring into faster fruits. Just a old timer picker! Sorry you all for the mistake on the page!
after rewiewing that picture. it°s got to be someone is picking somekind of dune. Lot of studies have been made over white americain matsutake but don°t be surprise if the result of one area will be different of an other.let pretend all sand dune move into different high and then very rapidely so I belive the dune mycellium should devellop more efficiently witch should bring into faster. Just a old timer picker!
after rewiewing that picture. it got to be someone is picking somekind of dune. Lot of studies have been made over white americain matsutake but don°t be surprise if the result of one area will be different of an other.let pretend all sand dune move into different high and then very rapidely so I belive the dune mycellium should devellop more efficiently witch should bring into faster. Just a old timer picker!
hey squibble im not in that area picking but the buyer i was selling to in brookings his name is montana joe nice guy, just went down there a week ago he was telling me that theres a big flush happing there also been hearing that from other buyers 6 bucks a pound in brookings tonight but everything is frozen so much for chantrells up here full buckets to all
The other thing about this not previously mentioned is the fact that there were numerous "holes" with damaged mycelium and missing larger Matsi as far as I walked in... It was obvious that a large group had ran through and stripped every mushroom in sight, not just matsi, but literally every mushroom was picked and then many later discarded, over a mile walking in, they had still been there...
Blaze2 , You are entirely correct in your evaluation of you what saw in 1998. You people really need to take time to read the 16 year study conducted by myself, Oregon State University and the USFS. The study is still in progress. Removing the litter layer really does no damage. It is when the mycelia is exposed to high temps during exposure, or is excavated entirely. Areas that have litter, or moss are recovered by rains redistributing the litter. Herein CJ, I have seen entire mountainside raked into wind rows. The next year it's hard to tell any raking was conducted, except it is evident the most decomposed litter is mixed in with the new. I have been called upon many times to examine these areas. What I find makes me furious, but no damage is done. In fact, I you read the study closely, you will find removing litter, picking, then replacing litter actually slightly increases production. You don't need to believe me, many veteran pickers were surprised we discovered this fact. Personally I think it is disgusting to disturb litter layers. It pisses me off to find an area in such a condition, even though I know no damage is done. Want someone to till your front yard so the grass grows better next year? Later, Matsiman
I was in Powell River in 1988 and the bush got trampled. The moss was in piles in some areas 4 feet high, no leaves on the salal, just a big mess...I went back the following year and went to the exact same places and you could not tell it was the way it was the year before. I totaly agree with putting the ground back the way ya found it but I have to be honest...it comes back so fast it really dosen`t make that much difference. I`ve been picking for over 25 years so no one can tell me the picking grounds are being ruined, and for the next 10 years...nope
Thanks starving. Keep me posted though. My patches are not due up for another week or so. Are there many buyers in town?
Looks like the pic needs a little clarification. First, click to enlarge. You will note all the exposed blue gray area is the mycelia. I have been examining animal and human disturbance for the past 16 years,. Not as a passing look, but as a professional determining what caused the disturbance. There is no doubt this was caused by human. Yes bear, dear, and pigs also cause similar damage, but only in the area of the mushroom. It is clear someone excavated a large area looking for more mushrooms. Our study indicates 10 year recovery. This doesn't mean it will produce no mushrooms at all for ten years, but a significant reduction. If the mycelia layer had been penetrated, we have had mushrooms in the type disturbance in 16 years. The redeeming effect is the fruiting begins 10 to 12 inches outside the raked area in 3 to 5 years. This is not a guess, but 16 years of official monitoring. Later, Matsiman
It froze hard here :-(
hate to see patches ransacked but that picture is hard to get a read on.... the garbage and toilet paper and exposed human waste is not anything but that tho.... face it a lot of people don't give a damn so thats why i never show anyone anything anymore.... when i go to mushroom stations i lie so much i'm suprised my nose isn't 8 feet long... as a footnote some of those mushrooms look big enough so why leave them??? animals usually bite the heads off or deer at least .... bears ransack.... one of the best patches i've ever seen was so torn up by bears and deer .... no mistaken identity as their droppings were all over.... ger
that picture looks like an animal not a person,squirrels and elk and deer rake the patches too.
squibble i hear theres lots in willits and garberville but the price is very low around 5 bucks aint worth it 4 me good luck to ya
anyone in Willits yet? Cali? Oregon? what's the market like for matsis, #1's
The pictures were horrible? I see 1 picture and judging from the size of the pine needles it appears to cover about 12 inches of forest. The matsi's left on the ground look wormy. I replace duff and fill in matsi holes where I pick but I have seen elk do much more damage than that in years past and the patches still produce. To sugggest the government should step in and make matsi picking illegal because of one 12 inch photo strikes me as a bit foolish.
The pictures were horrible. Thats why the goverment needs to step in and close the season for picking Matsutake.
wow! salal-tip prices are ridiculous now, what are the prices for salal-longs or a bail? what about boxwood... also, what are the next steps to discouraging unsightly pooping pickers in restricted zones. an educational flyer stuck on a windsheild may help? later folks
That picture has brought back some bad memories of some patches ive seen of raked ground. Last falI i have also seen some a-hole leave empty herring (kipper snacks) cans in bear country! Along with there huge piles of shit with paper, right on the trail of course! Lazy "Bleeps". The people who should get there ass kicked is the people who arrange these groups in the vans! From what ive seen it is greed along with laziness, NOT ignorance of proper picking technigues, that cause people to do this. These are the same people that throw there garbage out the window as they drive etc....
As someone who cares very deeply for the few patches of actively fruiting matsi that I have found, I am completely disgusted by the desecration of the patch Chris photographed. I don't even know what else to say... : (
.... yo Port. danielofthewoods call me at 250 7278035
Here is a photo Chris sent. The email accompanying is self explanatory.
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to enlargethey are buying cedar and white pine only at robinns wreathes,salal is around 65 cents for tips in nanaimo,you might check albert, he buys on the north end of ladysmith across from the big gas station,I think it is a husky.the one run by the indian band,he buys madrona and salal,that is if he is still open ,I have not sold there in 3 or 4 years,if someone figures out where to sell madrona,post it ,as we have access to 300 hands
Hello there good folk., I just got back from New York , ( next week will be my last trip there ) , In some restaurants they had mostly imported mushies , Black trumpets from Easter Europe and matsies from china , sad looking stuff , completely lacking in texture and no scent at all , it really shows the difference between buying " locally" versus bringing mushies half the planet away, ANDY , will you please elaborate about your field trip , also , I'm very curios about this year crop in your study area, be well folk.
yeah thats sucks black bear ass i guess its back to construction for the winter ... i guess freedom only comes 6 months of the year see you all next year stay safe and have fun
danielofthewoods I "think" that RobinnsWreaths over in Qualicum Bay may buy madrona but I don't know if they buy salal or not.
We haven't dealt with salal in a little over two years now and I am pretty much totally in the dark about who is buying salal these days (or even who is picking salal around Alberni these days). The last I heard a couple of weeks ago was that the price for tips in Nanaimo is around 60 cents or something like that. The low prices was one of the biggest reasons we stopped buying salal---the prices just weren't there for it to work for the pickers or for our buying station.
I am pretty sure that the indian band in alberni buys salal ,track down keith hunter he will know,if not then ya gotta go to nanaimo or duncan
i'm looking for buyers in wild huckleberries. We Can Pick anywhere from 100lbs to 500lbs frozen, or fresh 100lbs to 250lbs when season is in effect contact me at. white_leaf_09@hotmail.com. serious inquires please!
It froze here a bit inland from the Oregon coast :-(
hey anybody know of someone buying salal or madrone near port alberni
FINALLY! found first matsi button in comox valley, williams beach area, tasted great. Chanties seem to be almost gone there.